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Phil
7th October 2008, 09:29 AM
The club we play snooker has really poor balls, they're old, waisty, with scratches etc.

So I'd like to buy my own snooker balls to take to the club. How about the Aramith Premier? I guess it's the "cheapest" line of Aramaith but I assume they're still pretty good. Any experiences?

bongo
7th October 2008, 06:24 PM
They are very good from my experiences.

cueman
8th October 2008, 02:18 PM
Bit light really, I used them for a while just to see what the quality was like, perfectly decent for club tables, especially if the cloths are heavy and slow but if you play to a good standard then the TC's are the only balls to use.

Phil
8th October 2008, 03:30 PM
I'd say the tables where we play are quite slow, yes.

cueman
8th October 2008, 04:44 PM
I think they are worth getting then. The TC balls are heavier and are better on quicker more responsive cloths. They have got to be better than the balls you are using though.

Phil
8th October 2008, 06:13 PM
thanks again. I am going to take a look where to buy them when I return from my vacations in the south of France.

Harv
21st October 2008, 09:24 AM
read hijack. Anyone know of were the best place to buy these balls?

mihnea
21st October 2008, 09:53 AM
I have an aramith premiere set, and a aramith tournament. The best balls are Aramith Tournament, or crystalate. Aramith premiere balls are lighter and not so shiny. These are better than the chinesse balls , but anyway the tournament balls are expensive but are much better on any type of cloth.

bongo
21st October 2008, 07:38 PM
I have an aramith premiere set, and a aramith tournament. The best balls are Aramith Tournament, or crystalate. Aramith premiere balls are lighter and not so shiny. These are better than the chinesse balls , but anyway the tournament balls are expensive but are much better on any type of cloth.

Yes, without a doubt the Tournament set is the best, Premier is a good second best.

Some think Aramith balls are too light, but they are good though.

moglet
22nd October 2008, 12:19 AM
Yes Bongo, I think they are a tad too light, I'll leave the good part for other contributors to comment on.

As a matter of fact, can anyone here say definitively what weight the earlier balls were for the so called standard 2-1/16 inch diameter?

Phil
1st January 2009, 10:50 AM
got a set of aramith premier balls (2 1/16) yesterday for my birthday! great!!! :):)

Phil
2nd January 2009, 05:15 PM
so we played with my new set of Aramith balls today and what a difference it was compared to the club balls. It was a joy to play with this fantastic balls. and damn, one play indeed better with good balls!

Unit54
2nd January 2009, 06:45 PM
It's amazing how much difference playing with good balls makes! Although if you forget them one time you're supposed to be playing, you'll realize how poor the club balls really were. The balls at my club are terrible.

Phil
2nd January 2009, 07:55 PM
It's amazing how much difference playing with good balls makes! Although if you forget them one time you're supposed to be playing, you'll realize how poor the club balls really were. The balls at my club are terrible.

absolutely right. I wasn't aware how big the difference can be as we played only with club balls before. but it's another world really. it was so great to play with these new Aramith balls and it's funny, but we both played never as good as today. I made my highest break so far today (no, I am not going to tell you how high, it would be to embarrsing) and we played some great snooker and safety shots.

wow, I love snooker! :cool:

bongo
2nd January 2009, 08:59 PM
wow, I love snooker! :cool:

That's the spirit!

inevermissblue
2nd January 2009, 09:03 PM
Hi, yeah in my experience the Aramith Tournament Champion sets are by far the best, and if your club does'nt have them it is well worth taking your own set with you when you play, because if you don't and end up using old club sets then basically you are robbing yourself of a decent game of snooker. More to the point you will never ever improve as a result! Club sets which invariably are old will almost certainly have a smaller than usual sized cueball which coupled with the fact that it is already lighter in weight than is exceptable, makes playing snooker almost impossible. Old economy sets were made from polyester so if that does'nt put you off using them nothing will.
It a nightmare when you play in a snooker league that has clubs who use the club sets for matches. Firstly it takes all the fun out of the game and secondly you have to ask yourself why would they do it in the first place?
Its bad enough having to play on tables with massive pockets but thats another post altogether!!! :snooker: :snooker: :snooker:

Unit54
2nd January 2009, 09:45 PM
absolutely right. I wasn't aware how big the difference can be as we played only with club balls before. but it's another world really. it was so great to play with these new Aramith balls and it's funny, but we both played never as good as today. I made my highest break so far today (no, I am not going to tell you how high, it would be to embarrsing) and we played some great snooker and safety shots.

wow, I love snooker! :cool:

Good to hear about your top break, I did the same about 4 frames into playing with different balls, wasn't a particularly big break either. However, it gave me a great deal of confidence and using the balls regularly on half-decent tables has definately helped me improve my game.

DavisFan76
3rd January 2009, 12:23 AM
The balls that came with my 6ft table were absolute garbage, compared to the Aramith balls I now have (pool, at least, Snooker ones to follow very shortly). They looked rubbish and played rubbish as well. I was amazed, I opened the box and they looked like they were five years old or something, no shine at all!

Phil
3rd January 2009, 10:15 AM
sometimes I really wonder how bad some billard center owners look after their equipement: the cues have hardly any tipps left, the balls look old and wasted and often even the tables look bad. I came to places where they didn't even care for the dirt on the tables. that's why I always bring my own brush... to some amusement of other players. :eek:

DavisFan76
10th January 2009, 07:22 PM
read hijack. Anyone know of were the best place to buy these balls?

I got mine from here:

http://www.thurston.co.uk/Pages/ProductCategory.aspx?CategoryID=137

Not a bad price to start with (even if you include Thurston's delivery charge. They're very quick though, I have made two orders from them and both came in a couple of days or so).

Even better if you make a large order from them, as you only pay one lot of p&p and they charge a lot less than many other places, for example a brass spider costs around £4 from them: it seems to be around £8 or £9 everywhere else - I suppose they make up for it with the delivery charge, but if you make a large order, you save a hell of a lot. I have seen Premier Aramith around other sites, but everywhere else seem to do them for a higher price. I have no complaints with mine at all: they look beautiful and their playing characteristics match their looks!

One question: the Aramith cleaner recommends cleaning the balls after every game. How often do you guys clean them? Every game, or even every session is a bit much I think (unless you're just talking about the cueball).

And did you buy a ball case for them, or do you keep them in the box they came in?


I have an aramith premiere set, and a aramith tournament. The best balls are Aramith Tournament, or crystalate. Aramith premiere balls are lighter and not so shiny. These are better than the chinesse balls , but anyway the tournament balls are expensive but are much better on any type of cloth.

Really? Then the tournament ones must be like mirrors then, because I got some Aramith Premier a couple days back and they're extremely shiny. I'd recommend everyone who has recently got a 6ft snooker table to ditch the balls that came with them (unless they're Aramith, or equal quality, of course, but that's unlikely. I don't know what sort of balls come with a fullsize table).

Phil
11th January 2009, 08:34 AM
I store mine still in the box.

Phil
11th January 2009, 10:32 AM
I got mine from here:

http://www.thurston.co.uk/Pages/ProductCategory.aspx?CategoryID=137


this seems like a pretty good site!

we play on thurston tables in our club.

ChatLag
12th January 2009, 09:04 PM
My snooker mate and me have made us a gift for christmas. We bought a set of Tournament balls.
Most of the cases you get for the balls look like the 10,-- artifical leather attache cases which we dislike.

So we bought an aluminum case here:

http://www.alucases.com/


They have some cue cases of neglectable quality but really cheap and they have a ball case from aluminum which is OK. No Rimowa but it does the job without looking too ugly.

charlatan71
21st January 2009, 08:02 PM
i got a set of aramith balls of ebay (in the green box) for £9.00 plus £10.00 p&p, i take them to my local club and find them a hell of a lot better than the ones there.

neil

Phil
21st January 2009, 10:10 PM
£9.00??? you're sure they're real Aramith? :eek:

charlatan71
21st January 2009, 10:41 PM
well it says 'belgium' aramith on the box. i was the only bidder

Bigmeek
12th December 2009, 04:44 PM
That's the spirit!
Bongo Can you please clarify for me? Later on in this thread there is a reference to a site selling snooker balls (Thurstons I think). I looked the site and they're selling Aramith balls at 2.1/4"? as well as the standard 2.1/16". What are the bigger balls used for?

bongo
13th December 2009, 02:39 PM
Bongo Can you please clarify for me? Later on in this thread there is a reference to a site selling snooker balls (Thurstons I think). I looked the site and they're selling Aramith balls at 2.1/4"? as well as the standard 2.1/16". What are the bigger balls used for?

I think American Pool balls are 2 1/4 so I'd imagine the 2 1/4 (bigger) snooker balls could be used on an American Pool table and that's what they're made for.

Bigmeek
27th January 2010, 06:07 PM
Phil/Cueman Just took delivery of a set of Aramith Premier balls (52.5mm) and stuck them on my Mums kitchen scales. Looks like they average out at around 123g each. This seems a bit light to me as I read that the Tournament Champion balls average around 141g. Wasn't expecting there to be such a big difference and have started to wonder if I've got fakes as I got them from e-bay. I've still to play with them so I guess that will be the acid test as to whether they're any good or not. They certainly don't feel much different to the balls I am used to in my club. Any thoughts?
If the weight is correct at around 123g its got me wondering how on earth you can adjust to playing with 141g balls. Must be very strange.
PS Guess my Mums scales could be dodgy but it certainly doesn't affect her baking! Luvverly!

cueman
27th January 2010, 06:30 PM
I wouldn't use the premier balls anymore, just stick to Super Crystalate (my favourite) or TC's. Put simply you can't go from using one to the other and adjust easily. They are OK for most club players who want a decent ball without being too competitive but if you play league snooker or regular competition then you really need to be using professional quality balls as most well run leagues/tournies will use TC's.

The only great benefit of premier balls is the effortless screwback you can generate, however top spin has the opposite effect as the ball doesn't push through when looking to split the pack!

leeroygor
27th January 2010, 06:38 PM
i have 2nd hand sets of Aramith Tournament in good condition. £40 per set. plus postage. We change Rickys sets every 3 months and then put the spare sets through the club normally but we are getting overrun with sets.

ja.
27th January 2010, 06:53 PM
put ricky's balls on ebay ginge.

harry po
28th January 2010, 12:38 AM
i have 2nd hand sets of Aramith Tournament in good condition. £40 per set. plus postage. We change Rickys sets every 3 months and then put the spare sets through the club normally but we are getting overrun with sets.


how much for a set posted to n.ireland cheers

mihnea
28th January 2010, 09:15 PM
Does anyone know what is the weight of Aramith Crystalate? I played today first time with a set of Crystalate and these are a lot havier.

cueman
29th January 2010, 10:06 PM
Does anyone know what is the weight of Aramith Crystalate? I played today first time with a set of Crystalate and these are a lot havier.

You mean super crystalate? I think they are a similar weight to the TC balls, maybe very slightly heavier I do prefer these balls to the TC's.

wayync
27th July 2010, 07:52 AM
Is it true that slower cloths should use the lighter premier balls while faster cloths should use the tournament balls?

bongo
2nd August 2010, 03:14 PM
Is it true that slower cloths should use the lighter premier balls while faster cloths should use the tournament balls?

I'd say that is not true, the premier balls are probably too light for good snooker. Tournament Champion balls are the best.

roykay
3rd August 2010, 12:28 AM
Tournament Champion or Super Crystalite should be around 141 grams but most sets vary by 4-5 grams within a set. OK for snooker but not for billiards. The Aramith Premier balls that come in a green box are too light by about 15 grams and not good enough for serious players. You can buy on the auction site digital scales that weigh to within a 100th of a gram which is usefull. Dont get the two types mixed up as that will make matters even worse. As for cleaning I believe balls that are too shiny kick more, but thats another story.
Roy Bacon

short
3rd August 2010, 12:45 PM
aramith tc sets, is the cue ball not brilliant white more of a creamy yellow

Wimm
29th August 2010, 12:48 AM
It's also important to clean your snookerballs! At the moment I am playing on a new Hainsworth match cloth with my own set of (clean) TC balls. Splitting the pack is so easy in good conditions. Match play standard goes up big time playing in good conditions!