another trevor white!

[ADR147]

another trevor white!

58" long
9.5mm
17.7oz

£300 buys it.

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[archalf1471]

£150.....£170 with extensions and delivery? Or i send the turnip munchers round!

[willytan]

I m interested.
Will you send it out to singapore?
How much for the S&H to singapore?

[ADR147]

yes would be about £30.

[nostawmail]

what is that wood on the splice?????

[RGCirencester]

Is it birds eye maple? i was also wondering, birds eye maple is the only thing i can come up with

[archalf1471]

Yes it is birds eye maple, the vaneer is satinwood

[ADR147]

Yes it is birds eye maple, the vaneer is satinwood

correct. it will age well.

[Jonny]

how much did TW make it for?

[ADR147]

njo idea i would guess about 425

[cueman]

how much did TW make it for?

Ask Archalf, he sold it early after he listed it on Ebay last week! ;)

[archalf1471]

i dont think it would be fair on Andrew or potential buyers to discuss the original cost whilst the cue is being offered up for sale.
But I have to say i think the price the cue is being offered at is very fair considering the original cost and Trevors current waiting list

[ADR147]

thank you - i would say though that with the number you buy mate you must be on a trade discount!

[archalf1471]

only trade?????

[ADR147]

Suprised He Is Not Sending You Some For Free!

[cueman]

i dont think it would be fair on Andrew or potential buyers to discuss the original cost whilst the cue is being offered up for sale.
But I have to say i think the price the cue is being offered at is very fair considering the original cost and Trevors current waiting list

Er why not! This is an open forum, not just set up for ADR or anyone else to do their business free of charge. Sorry but that is like saying you are condoning people trying to con others out of money. Anyone could go to Trevor and have a quote for the same cue specs so it kind of defeats the object.

Sorry but this forum is going downhill if this is the way business is going to be conducted. If you want to fleece people Ebay is the place for that. However for a community of snooker fans this place should not be used by people who are only out to line their own pockets at the expence of the site owners.

[ADR147]

Er why not! This is an open forum, not just set up for ADR or anyone else to do their business free of charge. Sorry but that is like saying you are condoning people trying to con others out of money. Anyone could go to Trevor and have a quote for the same cue specs so it kind of defeats the object.

Sorry but this forum is going downhill if this is the way business is going to be conducted. If you want to fleece people Ebay is the place for that. However for a community of snooker fans this place should not be used by people who are only out to line their own pockets at the expence of the site owners.

equally he is under no obligation to tell you what he paid for it - and a guy who buys a cue every week is going to get a discount. - i told you what trevor would quote you roughly to replace it surely thats enough information?

also anybody who thinks i am here to line my pockets must be mad, i personally believe i have contributed an awful lot of helpful and impartial information and actually find the statement very insulting. so please feel free to take your opinions and stick them where the sun don't shine.

[ADR147]

i shall add to that, as i think you will find if you run a poll on it, most things i have sold to forum members have been done at no profit to myself purely to help out - i have even sent people the invoices to prove it. that said if people prefered it if i don't offer anything for sale on the forum it would not put me up or down.

[RGCirencester]

I've got to be on ADR's side here, Archalf could have got it for 20 pounds from a charity shop, this would not make any difference to the price it would be reasonable for ADR to sell it on for. He has already stated the price it would cost to have this made, and buying from him there is no waiting list. I personally think it's a very useful thing to have somebody you know you can trust on the forum, instead of blindly buying from ebay as many people may be forced to do otherwise.

[cueman]

So lets get this right then, you are offering cues and not making any profit from it. Do you think I/we on this forum were born yesterday?

You are always out to snap up cues from other members either on here or on Ebay and then the next thing they are listed on here a week or so later so you tell me, what's the deal?

[KeithinFrance]

I've got to be on ADR's side here, Archalf could have got it for 20 pounds from a charity shop, this would not make any difference to the price it would be reasonable for ADR to sell it on for. He has already stated the price it would cost to have this made, and buying from him there is no waiting list. I personally think it's a very useful thing to have somebody you know you can trust on the forum, instead of blindly buying from ebay as many people may be forced to do otherwise.

I agree with Rob, and with Andrew too. Andrew's put it up for sale, if you want to bid for it, then do so, if you don't, then don't. But, if you wanted to bid for it on here, I think you'd get it for a better price than if it was put up on eBay with many more potential bidders in competition.

[trigger666]

got to agree with RGC i dealt with adr on a few occasions (and asked him stupid questions !!!)
hes only ever been a proper gent and most helpful !!!

i think everybody has got a story to tell about EBAY !£"£$%^^

[cueman]

I've got to be on ADR's side here, Archalf could have got it for 20 pounds from a charity shop, this would not make any difference to the price it would be reasonable for ADR to sell it on for. He has already stated the price it would cost to have this made, and buying from him there is no waiting list. I personally think it's a very useful thing to have somebody you know you can trust on the forum, instead of blindly buying from ebay as many people may be forced to do otherwise.

fact is the cue was listed on Ebay last week, I remember it as there were a few interested buyers. AdR comes in and deprives them of a chance as he being a dealer decides to offer Archalf to end the listing early, neither have to pay commission to Ebay and the innocent potential buyers on Ebay are conned out of a chance to buy the cue. Then he advertises it for free on here to make a profit. If you think that is the work of someone out to help people then heaven help if he were out to stab you in the back! :rolleyes:

[KeithinFrance]

So lets get this right then, you are offering cues and not making any profit from it. Do you think I/we on this forum were born yesterday?

You are always out to snap up cues from other members either on here or on Ebay and then the next thing they are listed on here a week or so later so you tell me, what's the deal?

If you don't want to buy, then don't. Is Andrew holding a gun to anyone's head to force them to buy anything? The key word here is OFFERING cues, if you're not interested then don't bid. Simple.

[KeithinFrance]

fact is the cue was listed on Ebay last week, I remember it as there were a few interested buyers. AdR comes in and deprives them of a chance as he being a dealer decides to offer Archalf to end the listing early, neither have to pay commission to Ebay and the innocent potential buyers on Ebay are conned out of a chance to buy the cue. Then he advertises it for free on here to make a profit. If you think that is the work of someone out to help people then heaven help if he were out to stab you in the back! :rolleyes:

Do you want to pay eBay's fees on top of the cost of the cue?? No, neither do I.

[cueman]

If you don't want to buy, then don't. Is Andrew holding a gun to anyone's head to force them to buy anything? The key word here is OFFERING cues, if you're not interested then don't bid. Simple.

No I don't but its the principle I don't agree with. Does ADR pay the site owner for using their webspace to sell on the cues they've snapped up? There is a large audience on here, and yes whilst its great if members can help each other out its a bit different when there is one person doing all the deals. I've seen him try and snap up other cues off members on here if he's interested or if the price is right so he can make a profit at a later date. Its just the principle of it all I totally don't agree with.

[cueman]

Do you want to pay eBay's fees on top of the cost of the cue?? No, neither do I.

SO you think its acceptable then that you do all your business for free with someone else's webspace? How would you like it if you ran a site and people came on and did all their business through it.:rolleyes:

[Oldgit]

All I will say on this matter is that Adr147 (Andrew Ramsay) has personally helped me more times that I care to remember usually for absolutely no cost at all. He has NEVER asked for anything in return!!

Just one example of Andrew.......a couple of years ago I was talking to a main tour snooker pro and he mentioned that he would like to try a 'Talisman' tip so I telephoned Andrew and he sent the pro 6 tips immediately and wouldn't take payment for them.

Anyone who can get round the rising ebay and paypal fees deserves my admiration!!

Oldgit

[RGCirencester]

I personally dont agree with ebays policies these days, unless they've changed them all listings are required to offer paypal, which is owned by ebay! I have no issue with ADR selling the cue on here, it will go to a good home for a fair price that the new owner is willing to pay.

If the "site owners" felt the same as you they could easily ask him to stop. How many threads have you seen with people joining just to find out how to contact trevor white? Should we put him out of business too?

[ADR147]

No I don't but its the principle I don't agree with. Does ADR pay the site owner for using their webspace to sell on the cues they've snapped up? There is a large audience on here, and yes whilst its great if members can help each other out its a bit different when there is one person doing all the deals. I've seen him try and snap up other cues off members on here if he's interested or if the price is right so he can make a profit at a later date. Its just the principle of it all I totally don't agree with.

i buy cues from anywhere and anyone and yes the idea is to make a profit - should i live in a box under a bridge somewhere or should there be some level of reward for my efforts knowledge and experience?

if you must know i paid £270 for the cue. as for why i put it on here, that was to help out forum members not to line my own pockets - trust me it is not a difficult cue to sell.

as for using the forum as a business tool i have NEVER done that, and only ever offered impartial advice. try and find another forum on any topic where somebody like me offers their expeience to anyone who asks for nothing.

[KeithinFrance]

That's your right, you don't have to like someone buying and selling things on here, but it's allowed and he's not the only one who does it, it's just that his rate of purchasing is higher than anyone else's; so what? Perhaps he buys them to sell them elsewhere, and if they don't sell there then he offers them for sale here or perhaps not. Once again, he's not forcing anyone to buy anything and one only pays what one wants to pay, so where's the harm? As far as I can see, you are the only one complaining, and yet many people have bought items from Andrew, so perhaps the people he's "making a profit from" aren't that upset about it?

[ADR147]

I personally dont agree with ebays policies these days, unless they've changed them all listings are required to offer paypal, which is owned by ebay! I have no issue with ADR selling the cue on here, it will go to a good home for a fair price that the new owner is willing to pay.

If the "site owners" felt the same as you they could easily ask him to stop. How many threads have you seen with people joining just to find out how to contact trevor white? Should we put him out of business too?

i have been known to help out the site owners aswell !!

[RGCirencester]

On another note why did the "site owners" include a snooker items for sale section if they hated people selling things on here?

[KeithinFrance]

I personally dont agree with ebays policies these days, unless they've changed them all listings are required to offer paypal, which is owned by ebay! I have no issue with ADR selling the cue on here, it will go to a good home for a fair price that the new owner is willing to pay.

If the "site owners" felt the same as you they could easily ask him to stop. How many threads have you seen with people joining just to find out how to contact trevor white? Should we put him out of business too?


On another note why did the "site owners" include a snooker items for sale section if they hated people selling things on here?

He makes perfect sense. And he types faster than me, which is why he said it first!

[ADR147]

i guess you can't please everybody all the time.:cool:

[RGCirencester]

Back to the business at hand, Who wants to buy a nice birds eye maple Trevor White cue?

[cueman]

On another note why did the "site owners" include a snooker items for sale section if they hated people selling things on here?

Well I'm sure they didn't intend it for use by one person only to do all their business through it for free. Then again not everyone is as honest as that ;)

[KeithinFrance]

i guess you can't please everybody all the time.:cool:

Don't even try, mate, you might just get "stabbed in the back".

[ADR147]

Well I'm sure they didn't intend it for use by one person only to do all their business through it for free. Then again not everyone is as honest as that ;)

you really think offering the odd cue on here is all my business :D - i have offered what 5 or 6 in the last 2 years? that would need to be some mark up but i tell you what why don't you mind your own business and i won't feel the need to point out what a sh1t stirring to55er you are.

[cueman]

you really think offering the odd cue on here is all my business :D - i have offered what 5 or 6 in the last 2 years? that would need to be some mark up but i tell you what why don't you mind your own business and i won't feel the need to point out what a sh1t stirring to55er you are.

You've offered about 4 or 5 in the past fortnight, nice to see you try and stetch it out to 2 years though!

I'm not trying to stir up anything I'm not the one with an agenda here of buying up cues, trying to act like a nice guy and then flogging on here free of charge and being very cagey about how much you are asking for them. I'm entitled to my opinion just as much as you are selling cues on here but when I think someone is abusing the nature of the site for their own ends then I'll have something to say.

[ADR147]

yes you have an agenda, but i tell you what if people don't want me to do it thats fine by me but so far everybody thinks its a good and useful thing to do - you are in a minority of one.

[Jonny]

i was only interested people :0 wasn't meant to stir anything up lol

[checkSide]

This thread has taken a funny turn! lol

I'll just throw my 2p in. :D

Andrew is a decent guy. He will offer you advice, and can supply you with snooker stuff at a nice price.
I have chatted to him on the phone, bought a cue off him, and even sent him a cue he wanted to take a look at.
He is honest and a good guy to have around the forum.

We are like a small community here, and I like the fact he gets hold of good cues and offers them to us first. He obviously isn't making millions out of the forum selling a few cues and tips.
It's not against the t&c's of the site, so I don't see any problems.

Cueman. If you'd wanted that Trevor White, you could have made a deal with Archalf, as you recognised him on ebay from the forum. There is nothing wrong with that. The same can be said for anything Andrew is selling. If you see something nice on ebay, it's good to be able to have a chat with the seller on the forum and come to a deal.
I see that as an advantage.

Everyone is happy!

[MattCash]

I don't see what problem you have with Andrew, he's very helpful and has a big input to this forum from what i have seen in the past three weeks i have been a member. So what if he makes a profit on a few cues here and there, i say fairplay to him.

[KeithinFrance]

This thread has taken a funny turn! lol

I'll just throw my 2p in. :D

Andrew is a decent guy. He will offer you advice, and can supply you with snooker stuff at a nice price.
I have chatted to him on the phone, bought a cue off him, and even sent him a cue he wanted to take a look at.
He is honest and a good guy to have around the forum.

We are like a small community here, and I like the fact he gets hold of good cues and offers them to us first. He obviously isn't making millions out of the forum selling a few cues and tips.
It's not against the t&c's of the site, so I don't see any problems.

Cueman. If you'd wanted that Trevor White, you could have made a deal with Archalf, as you recognised him on ebay from the forum. There is nothing wrong with that. The same can be said for anything Andrew is selling. If you see something nice on ebay, it's good to be able to have a chat with the seller on the forum and come to a deal.
I see that as an advantage.

Everyone is happy!


I don't see what problem you have with Andrew, he's very helpful and has a big input to this forum from what i have seen in the past three weeks i have been a member. So what if he makes a profit on a few cues here and there, i say fairplay to him.

Nice to see there are some sensible folks on here.

[RGCirencester]

from what i have seen in the past three weeks i have been a member

October 08, feb 09... 3 weeks... hmmmm... youv'e lost a bit of credability there :p
Anyway people seem to have forgotten what this thread was about... Roll up roll up!!! get your hands on a spectacular trevor white cue with beautiful birds eye maple and satinwood. This cue is brilliant for those of you who are bird lovers... Even though birds eye maple is nothing to do with birds... Roll on the bidders who'll offer £4.50?
Sorry in a strange mood tonight and slightly bored.

[MattCash]

i meant three months

Detective RGCirencester :D

[ferret]

Right my turn :mad:

cueman, listen to what I say and listen very carefully.

People who I do not want doing business on this forum do not do business on this forum, people who I want doing business on this forum do so.

The way this site is run is up to me and me alone and I will not tolerate people like yourself speaking on my behalf or making implications like you have in this thread. Some people say I am too harsh and others too lax in some areas, but since I have taken over the forum only 18 months ago the site has grown from under 4,000 to 10,000+ members, so there has got to be something I am doing right.

Members like ADR147 help out a great deal on the site and are more than welcome to self promote (within reason, I am not going to give him his own section on the forum or anything ;)) there are also a great number of other business owners who seem to spend more time on TSF than they do running their own business's, which is fine by me.

So I suggest that if you do not like what is going on, in this section ....... oh and BTW you are in the Snooker Items For Sale section (The clue is in the title) then you do not read what is being said in here.

That is my final word on this matter, I don;t want any emails or PM's or what ever, so back on track and ADR147 has a cue for sale 300 pound notes, first come first served. Great deal if you ask me and if I had the cash I would rip his hand off.

[trevs1]

Personally, (and this is not my deal or anything to do with me)

I don't think Ferret could have summed it up much better than that, so credit to him.

The facility does exist in this forum for people to buy and sell if they so choose, which it seems, is all that's happening here, no crime.

As to the value of any particular cue, made by any maker, I am certain that those viewing this site can check and verify what costs what from each maker for themselves.

The cue in questions would not cost quite what Andrew thought it might (he has not checked with me) but, by the same token, I know for a fact he paid exactly what he said he did for it.

When we consider that, he isn't really making a massive profit on this particular cue.

[RGCirencester]

Has nobody bought this yet? Come on people!

[ADR147]

Has nobody bought this yet? Come on people!

not yet - which is handy since i don't actually have a cue to play with yet - although it will be coming on monday i believe.

[RGCirencester]

I thought you had a stockpile of 10,000,000,000 cues? There must be one amongst them you like!

[ADR147]

no i rarely have more than about 20. - i used to have a lot of antique cues but they started taking over the house and the misses hinted that they had to go. when you are married to a french woman its best not to put them to the test. :eek:

[KeithinFrance]

What about that beautiful Burwat replica you had? You weren't mad enough to part with that one, were you?

Concerning the "putting a French woman to the test" (sic) I can confirm that, and funnily enough, for much the same reason!!

[ADR147]

What about that beautiful Burwat replica you had? You weren't mad enough to part with that one, were you?

Concerning the "putting a French woman to the test" (sic) I can confirm that, and funnily enough, for much the same reason!!

yes i swapped it - although i have another one avaliable shortly.

[KeithinFrance]

yes i swapped it - although i have another one avaliable shortly.

You swapped it??? I hope it was a good swap! Like, for a car or something ...

[ADR147]

You swapped it??? I hope it was a good swap! Like, for a car or something ...

lol i can't even remember now!

[highbreak 8]

Is it made by the same birds eye who make those lovely fishfingers .:D

[soldja_boi]

what are those tiny little dot things on the birds eye maple? Just interested.

[ADR147]

thats the birds eyes!

[trigger666]

thats the birds eyes!

What sort of bird ?? Seagull ?? bluetit?? :D:p

[checkSide]

what are those tiny little dot things on the birds eye maple? Just interested.

Lmao. You're sharp as a knife soldja_boi.

[khizzy]

i bought the beauty

[ADR147]

i bought the beauty

oh so its for you!

[checkSide]

Lol. Congrats to the new owner.

[KeithinFrance]

i bought the beauty

Nice one, Khiz. What about all the other cues you've got on order?? Lol. Seriously though, how's the snooker going with your big matches coming up?

[khizzy]

well this one is for my brother,he plays for fun,practice is going great ,the tournament has been postponed.

[KeithinFrance]

Nice present for someone who plays for fun! Glad to hear practice is going well, and the postponing of the tournament means that Trev can take it a bit easier, then, doesn't it? Lol

[khizzy]

well im counting days for the cue,wouldnt want trev to know about it,lol.

[KeithinFrance]

I won't tell if you don't!!

[MattCash]

khizzy i think we might be long lost brothers, will you buy me a trevor white cue:D:D:D

[RGCirencester]

ADR what will you play with now? Khizzy stole your playing cue! Though i don't think stole is the right word lol.

[fredkite]

To be fair to cueman he's 100% correct in his assesment of ADR. Why, it was only yesterday ADR ran-tanned on my front door and forced me to buy five of his cues. I had to sell my bottom for a few hours to pay him but did he care? No. I'm now stuck with five Keith Auld rejects that the local allottment owners won't buy. But i've still got me health, oh yes.

[KeithinFrance]

To be fair to cueman he's 100% correct in his assesment of ADR. Why, it was only yesterday ADR ran-tanned on my front door and forced me to buy five of his cues. I had to sell my bottom for a few hours to pay him but did he care? No. I'm now stuck with five Keith Auld rejects that the local allottment owners won't buy. But i've still got me health, oh yes.

Not for much longer, methinks!

[ADR147]

ADR what will you play with now? Khizzy stole your playing cue! Though i don't think stole is the right word lol.

i have two more coming tomorrow.

[RGCirencester]

Lucky for some!

[ADR147]

Lucky for some!

oh its easy to do just spend a grand or two a week on cues!

[ADR147]

i have another pool spec one if people are interested - don't want to upset cueman though!

[RGCirencester]

You have to have a grand or two a week for that to work!

[ADR147]

You have to have a grand or two a week for that to work!

i lost nearly that today gambling!

[RGCirencester]

i lost nearly that today gambling!

If you want to waste your money couldn't you send it me instead?????

[ADR147]

If you want to waste your money couldn't you send it me instead?????

i might as well have! :mad::mad:

[Burwat Champ]

i have another pool spec one if people are interested - don't want to upset cueman though!

In that case you will be keen to show that you are not all about making a profit so will let me have the cue for 75p and £2.50 postage. :D

[RGCirencester]

I would've appreciated it! Or how about a cue?

[ADR147]

In that case you will be keen to show that you are not all about making a profit so will let me have the cue for 75p and £2.50 postage. :D

lol - there is a difference between not all about profit and charity! would take a lowish offer though - 8mm not really my area! - two mins i will post a few piccys and spec.

[RGCirencester]

hmm a lowish offer.... 50 quid :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Burwat Champ]

What about 2 chickens and a goat??

[ADR147]

hmm a lowish offer.... 50 quid :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

lowish not rude!

[ADR147]

What about 2 chickens and a goat??

how well used is the goat?

[RGCirencester]

And how was the goat used???? :O

[Burwat Champ]

how well used is the goat?

The chickens are A1 condition but the goat has ring piece like a wizards sleeve!!!

[checkSide]

Perfect fit. ;)

[KeithinFrance]

The chickens are A1 condition but the goat has ring piece like a wizards sleeve!!!

You are a very sick man! ... but I do like the "ring piece like a wizard's sleeve" line; is it yours?

[KeithinFrance]

Hey, Andrew, 8mm tip sounds like my sort of spec, any chance of vital stats and photos?

[noel]

I have a goat joke... should I post it... it's Scottish...?


=o)

Noel

[checkSide]

I have a goat joke... should I post it... it's Scottish...?


=o)

Noel

Why not??????

[Burwat Champ]

All the more reason to post it!!

[KeithinFrance]

Yes, please. We're not that easily offended, you know.

[RGCirencester]

I'm offended without reading the joke... i demand a cue in compensation!!!

p.s. one day one of my pleas will work ;)

[Burwat Champ]

I have a goat joke... should I post it... it's Scottish...?


=o)

Noel

On 2nd thought wait till ADR lets us know how much he wants for the otherwise if the joke offends him he will add another £50 to the price.

[MattCash]

On 2nd thought wait till ADR lets us know how much he wants for the otherwise if the joke offends him he will add another £50 to the price.

wise decision :D

[Burwat Champ]

You are a very sick man! ... but I do like the "ring piece like a wizard's sleeve" line; is it yours?

I wish I could take credit for it but I heard it from a comedien in my local club.

He made the remark about the bar maid, funny though she didnt find is as funny as I did!!

[MattCash]

that sounds like the works of borat

[noel]

On second thought... since that Scottish goat joke was probably ban-bait...
and since I want to be on-topic with commercial issues and our international membership...
consider CUES! sorry, I mean COWS!...


A CHRISTIAN DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. You keep one and give one to your neighbor.

A SOCIALIST: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.

A REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So what?

A DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. You vote people into office who tax your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax. The people you voted for then take the tax money and buy a cow and give it to your neighbor. You feel righteous.

A COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk.

A FASCIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and sells you the milk. You join the underground and start a campaign of sabotage.

DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government taxes you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government takes them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then pours the milk down the drain.

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one and force the other to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when the cow drops dead.

A FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.

A GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You reengineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows but you don't know where they are. You break for lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You count them and learn you have five cows. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have 12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A MEXICAN CORPORATION: You think you have two cows, but you don't know what a cow looks like. You take a nap.

A SWISS CORPORATION: You have 5000 cows, none of which belongs to you. You charge for storing them for others.

A BRAZILIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You enter into a partnership with an American corporation. Soon you have 1000 cows and the American corporation declares bankruptcy.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You worship them.

ENRON CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so you get all four cows back with a tax exemption for five cows. The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority shareholders who sell the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company. The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option to buy one more.


=o)

Noel

[ADR147]

sorry i got invloved with more important things (crepes!:D)

superb maple shaft - thuya burr front splice. 8mm just under 58" long 18.04oz balance point at 17".

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[noel]

The chickens are A1 condition but the goat has ring piece like a wizards sleeve!!!

... didn't Viz originate that piece of hirsute slang?


=o)

Noel

[RGCirencester]

Did the polar bear eat the entire carpet? :eek:

[ADR147]

i don't think so it was around when i was at school - and i remember when viz came out!

[ADR147]

Did the polar bear eat the entire carpet? :eek:

i keep the east wing minimalist.