Who is the slowest professional snooker player?

[sigsky]

Peter Ebdon?

[Jools]

I would say on average Peter ebdon isn't. When he is slow he's extremely S L O W but when playing at pace he's fairly brisk so average shot time won't make him the slowest. If we're talking pros past and present how about Eddie Charlton?

[Jools]

Or Terry Griffiths

[snooky147]

Ian Mcculloch is up there.

[magicman]

Dave Harold?

[Theguywithaplan]

Ebdon is not the slowest definately, on certain occasions he has taken slow to a new level but on average he's actually not as slow as people tend to think, I feel. Dave Harold just gives the appearance of being slow by the way he moves nothing when down on the shot, again not that slow if timed I think. The slowest on tour at the minute is between Rod Lawler and Rory Mcleod. I think Rod is the slightly slower of the two.

[montoya10]

Peter Ebdon is often labeled as defensive and slow, but he occassionally plays faster and even attempts crazy pots which surely doesn't fit the defensive scheme one would think of..
Therefore, Dave Harold or Rory McLeod would probably get my vote.

[Rane]

When things gets tricky, then Ricky Walden can be very slow as well, not in executing the shot but more in considering what to do. But overall I back Mcleod or Lawler.

[bonoman1970]

Neil Robertson and Graeme Dott....especially when they playing against each other!

[abhi147]

Neil Robertson and Graeme Dott....especially when they playing against each other!

Lol good one.

I feel Jamie burnett is quite slow as well.
His shot selection and thinking before the shots is pretty quick. But he takes too much time feather. Even on simple shots he feathers atleast 10 times that too not including the small 1/2 inch feathers.
When you are watching him and when he stops feather you think " ok hes about to hit" and whooops he starts feathering again. I like his game though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEarH2rS13o check this video and see how much he feathers even on straight forward shots.

[thelongbomber]

Stephen Lee isnt far behind. He likes to do the "walkabout" a lot

[Jools]

One things for sure about Steven Lee, he always scores heavily

[sigsky]

Right. Well thanks all, seems the consensus is Mcleod or Lawler. Can't say I'm familiar with either of those players but I'll watch for them.

[Le Ball Sack]

Darren Morgan

[Acrowot]

As good a player as Terry Griffiths was, he was a pain in the neck to watch, because of his very slow play. Even when he was a top amateur.
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[spike]

One of the players that I found incredibly slow and infuriating to watch was Rex Williams.

With regards to today's players I would also agree that Rory McCloud is one of the slowest..

[Matt_2745]

I'd have to back Rory in this category as well. His match with Greene at this year's World qualifiers was gruelling, ditto that against Hicks the year before.

[KashifK]

I have to say Rex Williams, Eddie Charlton and Cliff Thorburn. They were the three slowest I seen and of the three I would say Rex was the slowest followed by Eddie and Cliff.

[bonoman1970]

Wasnt Robbie Foldivari supposed to be the slowest of slow, held the record for the longest frame and longest match ect......though Neil Robertson must surely be up there for the five minutes or so he took in the WC final just to play a basic safety.

[Cyril]

Fred Davis was quite slow. Steve Davis is often very slow but does change his tempo quite often depending on the way the games going.

[saddler79]

I just find Ebdon very very painful to watch. Even when hes in and around the black spot he's slow. His brain clearly doesnt read the game as quickly as his fellow professionals but I cant help feeling hes deliberately slow in many games to break the rythym of a quick opponent. Nothing to break the rules of the game but its bad sportsmanship! He's one of the main reasons I'd like to see the shot clock brought into a lot more tournaments.

[Jools]

I just find Ebdon very very painful to watch. Even when hes in and around the black spot he's slow. His brain clearly doesnt read the game as quickly as his fellow professionals but I cant help feeling hes deliberately slow in many games to break the rythym of a quick opponent. Nothing to break the rules of the game but its bad sportsmanship! He's one of the main reasons I'd like to see the shot clock brought into a lot more tournaments.

This is true of Ebdon but so is the opposite, I've seen him make very crazy aggressive shots like instead of the old rolling up behind a baulk colour to play safe he'll hit the object colour full whack into the pack of reds scattering them everywhere and on more than one occasion i've seen him play this type of shot with hardly any contemplation at all, and when in the balls compiling a break he moves relatively quickly so what was a 40 second average shot time becomes halved over a frame. He's hard one to read that one, but on average not yer slowest player. I find him interesting to watch but i know this is a contraversial view.

[Acrowot]

I would never had said Fred Davis was slow. Still say the in his day, Terry Griffiths was the slowest of them all.
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[jaybee136]

There used to be a lot more competition for snookers slowest player when guys like Robbie Foldvari, Mario Morra, Ian Williamson, Jack Fitzmaurice, Clive Everton and Steve Duggan were around, luckily for TV fans they rarely if ever in some cases, made it to the TV stages.

[davipp]

Must agree, Eddie Charlton. Watch Eddie and Robbie Foldvari play in the late 80's at Tattersalls took 65min to play 1 frame. I'm glad I walked out because I would have missed seeing Willie Thorne make his 62nd maximum.

[BaconLad]

I can't understand why Peter Ebdon has been labelled as "slow"???
He is as quick and flowing as most pro's on tour (when playing well) and in my opinion very interesting and exciting to watch.

[sunny3909]

Eddie Charlton

[pottingpinks]

Hawkins is not a player I enjoy watching much either, though part of that is cos he tends to have a negative shot selection, don't think he's particularly quick either though.

But would have to say its Rory McLeod overall.

[Skypigeon]

Rory MacLeod for sure!!

[cajt]

He's now dropped off the tour but Paul Davies was one of the very slowest. You could almost gaurantee that his match would be the last to finish!

[Bigmeek]

Dave Harold can be very slow at times. Sometimes you think he's fallen asleep on the shot. I suppose some players are very slow on shot selection but OK when down on the shot. The opposite might also be true. You see on the telly shot times which always seem to be around 20 seconds. I like to know how this is calculated. When does the clock start and finish? Terry Griffiths was famous for taking the long way round the table to his next shot which could add to the time. Alex Higgins used to run round the table which would speed up his shot times. I guess technique comes into it as well. Point and hit players would be quicker than those who do loads of feathers.

[ADR147]

Dave Harold can be very slow at times. Sometimes you think he's fallen asleep on the shot. I suppose some players are very slow on shot selection but OK when down on the shot. The opposite might also be true. You see on the telly shot times which always seem to be around 20 seconds. I like to know how this is calculated. When does the clock start and finish? Terry Griffiths was famous for taking the long way round the table to his next shot which could add to the time. Alex Higgins used to run round the table which would speed up his shot times. I guess technique comes into it as well. Point and hit players would be quicker than those who do loads of feathers.

yet dave harold has no feathers

[Bigmeek]

yet dave harold has no feathers
Yeh, just points at cue ball for ages before hitting. Personally I like the point and hit technique so long as it's slow back and pause. Just can't work out why Dave Harold takes so long before starting the back swing. Wonder what he's thinking about?

[finabb]

Haven't read the others but Rory McCloud is slow and even more important boring.

[sunny3909]

Rory Mcloed can be very entertaining sometimes he made three consecutive centuries against Ronnie in UK Championships.
Got the crowd on its feet.

[CoachGavin]

To be honest thats probably because he had nothing to lose at that point in the match. Makes it a lot easier to just throw your arm at things and play more positive. If only he played like that all the time - just shows a lot of it is in the head.

[Theguywithaplan]

He was very entertaining in the shoot out (20 sec shot clot) and he played quite well in that; he tends to slam ridculous long balls in occasionally, quite similar to Judd Trump in the respect actually. In regular tournament play though he is probably the worst player to watch.

[OVER HULTON NUMBER ONE !!]

Hello , Graham Miles Remember him ?

[spike]

Hello , Graham Miles Remember him ?

I wouldn't have put Graham Miles in the (slow camp). From what footage I have seen of him, which is a fair amount, I would say he was neither quick or slow..

[LittleMissAlexa]

No one has mentioned Barry Pinches his matches tend to last many an hour

[the montrealer]

HI I would say Peter Ebdon slow and boring. If there was a fire in the house he would be the last one out

[arbitrage]

Peter Ebdon?

friend, your question should be reframed "who takes advantage of loopholes in the rules the most to unfairly slow down play to disadvantage & cheat opponents?"

in that case, it would be a dead heat between the 3 biggest time-wasters on the circuit - peter ebdon, mark selby and rory mcleod.

[MasterBreak147]

I just find Ebdon very very painful to watch.

agree although a very pleasant fella, rod the plod is right up there too

[bricktip]

I seem to remember Chris Small being fairly slow.

[LittleMissAlexa]

still no one commenting on barry pinches he reguarly plays until midnight/1am

[Looki]

in that case, it would be a dead heat between the 3 biggest time-wasters on the circuit - peter ebdon, mark selby and rory mcleod.

Friend, you just named three gentlemen against whom weak-headed players once in a while struggle to cope. Only because their natural rythm is a little slower in difficult situations.

[arbitrage]

still no one commenting on barry pinches he reguarly plays until midnight/1am

well, he should be banned too then.

of course, dr. wilke and todd akin of this forum will have something to say about that haha.

[screw-back]

paul davidson is awful. Boring boring boring along with bedford lawlor mcleod harold hamilton pinches o'brian and o'donal mcgill are getting there too.

[narl]

Ebdons the only player ive seen that can address a ball 20+ times and still miss the pot by 6 inches plus. Makes it even look more farsical when that happens.

[ADR147]

paul davidson is awful. Boring boring boring along with bedford lawlor mcleod harold hamilton pinches o'brian and o'donal mcgill are getting there too.

hamilton is one of the most natural break builders i have seen! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_699EKAdbI

[screw-back]

hamilton is one of the most natural break builders i have seen! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_699EKAdbI

Maybe so but he is still one of the ssssllllooooowwwweeweesssssttttt

[ADR147]

Maybe so but he is still one of the ssssllllooooowwwweeweesssssttttt

i really don't think he is that slow.

[LittleMissAlexa]

how many times ITS BARRY PINCHES always finisheshis matches in theearly hours even when playing against people like xiao guodong who isnt a slouch barry always gets away with it people dont realise how slow he is

[LittleMissAlexa]

how many times ITS BARRY PINCHES always finisheshis matches in theearly hours even when playing against people like xiao guodong who isnt a slouch barry always gets away with it people dont realise how slow he is

from twitter World Snooker ‏@WorldSnooker1 10minutes ago
(R): International Championship, WILDCARD ROUND, Barry Pinches 5 (11) 6 Lu Ning

World Snooker ‏@WorldSnooker1 3h
(R): International Championship, Round 1, John Higgins 3 (11) 6 Cao Yupeng

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(R): International Championship, Round 1, Mark Selby 6 (11) 3 Allister Carter

see my point about pinches

[sberry]

Cheetah Ebdon is officially the slowest player ever seen at the crucible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_UwJYYUHI&feature=related

[damienlch]

Cheetah Ebdon is officially the slowest player ever seen at the crucible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT_UwJYYUHI&feature=related

I just had a look at the video again... At the 3:30min mark, he feathered 18 times before hitting the pink. I think he ended up losing his own rhythm when he missed the red at the end of the clip.

[LittleMissAlexa]

pinches is helping his claim for this title again still playing his morning match at 14:17

[Truffle Shuffle]

There used to be a lot more competition for snookers slowest player when guys like Robbie Foldvari, Mario Morra, Ian Williamson, Jack Fitzmaurice, Clive Everton and Steve Duggan were around, luckily for TV fans they rarely if ever in some cases, made it to the TV stages.

Ha ha I know Steve Duggan VERY well ! He's a great bloke always got a smile on his face and not a bad word about anybody. Was a bit slow tho lol.

[phil8715]

I think Peter Ebdon and Graeme Dott. They make Cliff Thornurn & Terry Griffiths look like Ronnie O'Sullivan & Judd trump. Watching Ebdon & Dott makes watching paint dry look interesting.