Cueing & Sighting

[RaNeN]

I have got a problem with my cueing. I dont pause on my final back swing. I have seen professionals do that. When I do pause on my final backswing the ball either pots perfectly or its a complete disaster. Can somebody help me with this please?

The other problem I have got is sighting. I am unable to play a safety like clipping a red and coming back to the baulk cushion. I either end up striking the red half ball or not touching it at all. What do I do to improve on these shots?

Oh and one more thing I cant play using sides , I rarely pot a ball using side spin. I do pot a few blacks using side but nothing else. What do I do to improve on this?

[caesar]

I too have the same problem with my backswing pause.
I've never done it in 10 years or so of playing and now am seeing a pro coach, and am finding it really difficult to incorporate into my action.

The pause seems very unnatural and often leads to my final cue action being off. I think this is because I amd concentrating so much on the damned pause!

The only way I can look at it, is that I need to take a step back in my game in order to improve. It's not that I played badly without the pause though, as I could get total clearances from the lineup, but I've been told it will help me in time to add the pause.

Just feels really weird, as my feathering action acts as a pendulum to my smooth cueing action, which the pause seems to break.:(

[Erwan_BZH]

I've experienced this problem too. It's really annoying and disturbing I would say.


Just feels really weird, as my feathering action acts as a pendulum to my smooth cueing action, which the pause seems to break.:(

Exactly! And I'm always speechless when seeing the smoothness and the velocity that guys like Hendry or Higgins are able to produce when hitting the ball.

[RaNeN]

Thats what I want the smoothness of the cueball and velocity as you said Erwan.

[reverse_side]

At least you're in good hands then Caesar, there's many a player (of many sports) that realise to improve any further they've got to "re-model", "re-shape", and basically go back to basics and learn how to play the game as text-book as possible. http://fergalobrien.ie/about1.html has Fergal O'Brien deciding to be brave and being willing to admit he wasn't the best he could be (World Rankings from 97/98 went 23, 20, 11, 9, 16 and tback to 23 - highest was in 00/01) so we'l see how he gets on.

You could count the number of Pro's who don't pause on one hand - can't think of any at the moment, some even have a pause at the white for several seconds (Wattana, Fu, Harold etc) so you're in good company if you persevere; which you've found is the hard part. Don't give up amd listen to your Coach... ask him questions and explain your problems... they'll sort it out.

Ranen; as for your problem in clipping reds for safety; I'd suggest treating it like a pot, if you're okay in attempting a pot, then look at the red as a pot with the pocket somewhere along the blakc cushion. Gauge the 'potting' angle and then play the shot. As for having problems playing with side; don't. Well not unless you've had some solo-practice.

If you're using left or righthand side and missing, you'll regularly leave your opponent a few chances and that will put more pressure on your next shot if you think of playing with side again. Different tables 'throw' the white varying amounts when you put side on a shot too; therefore, if you want to master side, best use just one table and work out what affects the shot and what stops you potting - or playing a good safety.

There are cues that reduce the 'throw' of a shot, but it's best to keep practicing pots and safety and you'll get better. Use your billiard experience.

It can be difficult to use side because the white goes one way to start with and bends back and goes the other, so if you hit the object ball too late or too early, you can miss the pot on both sides of the pocket. You should only be using side for position, so you should first look at if you're using the natural angle where you don't need to use side at all. I've not tried seeing what break I could get by just using plain-ball all the time, but if I could restrict myself to top and bottom, then I'd not be too disadvantaged. Having said that, there's not many shots I play plain-ball!

It's all down to knowing what the right things is to do and trusting yourself to try it. Let us know how you get on - or what you'll try next.

[Erwan_BZH]

You could count the number of Pro's who don't pause on one hand - can't think of any at the moment, some even have a pause at the white for several seconds (Wattana, Fu, Harold etc) so you're in good company

Graeme Dott is the first guy which comes to my mind about players not using a pause. I think Stephen Lee but not sure.

[RaNeN]

Umm theres another problem I would like to point out while using side. I can play with right side but not with left. Let me explain , I am right handed , I can pot the black in the top right pocket using right hand side and getting the cue ball almost for yellow three cushions. But the same thing if I try it from the opposite side where I need to give left hand side , I miss the black!
From now on i'll stop using side or just use it when I am confident about the shot.

Now a days when I play a shot my cueing hand(i.e right hand) hits me in the chest in the final swing , is this correct?

[reverse_side]

Ok Ranen, that shows you like playing with helpful side and you're more comfortable with forehand shots; I'll explain. Pots to the left with righthand side and pots to the right with lefthand side would be using "helpful side" and pots to the left for a righthander are forehand, backhand shots the other way round.

Righthanders are usually more comfortable hitting and potting balls to the left - a perfect example is the break-off shot.

The answer.... practice the shots you don't like and therefore don't play well. Use less side and think of some different angles.

Case in point would be your 3 cushion shot from black to yellow. It's a nice shot to play, but maybe instead of hammering it with bottom left, maybe with a lot less screw, righthand side off two cushion and coming up the left side of the blue (looking a TV table) to train in on the yellow.

It's not a natural shot to put lefthand side on a pot to the left, but say for splitting reds off a black, it can be invalualbe... you could even allow yourself to play that shot to get from black to yellow as in the previous situation.

Just to illustrate what I thought you were doing...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/Ranen-scrrhs-bty.jpg

Two alternatives depending on the angle on the black would be...

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/Ranen-2c-bty.jpg

and a more difficult shot...
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/Ranen-topLHS-b2y.jpg

You could put more top than lefthand side and only use 1 cushion (depending on angle)

But as I've said before... if you struggle to do something that you need to do in a game, you need to practice it until you feel confident. Especially if you understand what you're doing wrong. How accurate are you for 10 or 20 half ball blacks off the spot hit plain ball? If you're not getting more than 7 or 8 out of 10, then adding side will really cause you problems.

As for hitting your chest, I do that know and again but it's mostly because the cueing is awkward. I've just done the classic, getting your cue out to test what you've said, and it seems that maybe you're chest is pointing towards the shot too much. The only way i can repeat what you've said is to aim my chest more towards the shot. My normal shot has my torse angling more across the line of the shot so it's not in the way.... no beer bellies to worry about!

If I assume you're not overweight, then although having a chest pointing more towards the shot than average, will put your eyes and head more inline, you need to make room for the cue to be pushed through so a tweak's needed. Are there any Clubs with coaches or a friendly player nearby?

Let us know.

[RaNeN]

You got me wrong there , In the 1st pic the cue ball is on the other side. I play top right and get it the way you have shown but not by bottom. As for the 2nd pic i can play that shot from both the sides. For the 3rd pic I just cant do that....lol. The other question I have is that should my right foot be in a straight line with my cue? My foot is at an angle of 135 degrees from the cue?

[Nat5guns]

Personally i find standing straight-on with my right leg straight on the line of the shot, it gives my cue action the added stabilty. The chest and the nice solid base helps my cue to keep still and sturdy whilst cueing through the white. It really does feel nice when you find the most suitable stance for yourself, you can then concentrate on all of the other aspects of the game.

[reverse_side]

Hmm... so you can play a black with running side (righthand side), but not with running side when it's lefthand side... is that the problem? If that's the case then I'd still say that you need to practice it then as playing the black from a high position with running side is an essential shot when breakbuilding round the black.

If you can't do it, then like I've said, if you think you need to do it..... practice it. If you "can't do it", what goes wrong? It's the same shot just hitting the other side. If you can gauge how much the white gets moved offline on one shot, get better at gauging it from the other angle.

BTW...If you run through with running side you'd struggle to use 3 cushions, 2 I'd've thought would be the shot especially as you're bringing the pink and blue into the shot with a risk of hitting them if you use 3 cushions.

As for your stance, like Nat says, find a stance that's comfortable. 135 degrees??? if the line of your cue is at 12 o'clock on a clockface then Nat's saying he's facing the same way and then holds his cue.

My tip would be to pick the line of the shot, start laying down the cue and wrap yourself around the cue in whichever way is comfortable. My stance is VERY unique and relates to my height and inside leg measurement.... it's vaguely like a giraffe drinking water.... legs straight and wide so my body's lower. If one leg is bent, then I need to bend over far too much and stretch my back too much as well.

(re-reading my previous post I meant to say, "hammering it with screw and righthand side")

[RaNeN]

Suppose my cueing line is in 12 O Clock position then my right foot is in between 2 and 3 O Clock. Is thios ok?

[Nat5guns]

I have my foot pointing directly straight towards 12 oclock.

[RaNeN]

Actually I noticed this when I watched players of my country. I saw Pankaj Advani and Geet Sethi's match today. They both have their right foot straight in line with the cue. I also saw Aditya Mehta , who has been coached by Steve Davis. So was just wondering wether this would make a huge difference for me?

[reverse_side]

you need to see some coaching pictures Ranen as you're getting into a situation where even the basics are becoming muddled.... have a look through this page http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/basics/the_stance/stance.htm then click through the rest and then when you play next, you can start with the basics in stone.

[Nat5guns]

It could make a difference, the only way to tell is to try it out:)

[RaNeN]

Oh and one more thing, I have noticed some of these players have got their left shoulder close to their face. Its like their body is twisted into the shot. Get me?

[RaNeN]

I tried playing like this today. It did feel better.

[RaNeN]

You are right reverse side . I first need to get my basics right. Thank You for the help.

[Nat5guns]

kind of, just try not to worry about your stance etc, and dont go on what other peoples stances are like, find your own through practice.

[reverse_side]

there's someone who's read and absorbed Frank's wise words... well done Nat.

You just need to feel comfortable on every shot so you can hit a ball straight and where you want it to go... without any other ball on the table, then start looking at what you need to do for a shot and make sure you're delivering the cue in an accurate & repeatable way.

Frank talks of reading the table, then deciding on what to do... even if you've an action like Joe Swail, just make sure you work hard and decide on the right ting to do in whichever way you feel most comfortable with... once you've read the basics though as they'll get your rudder both IN the water and pointing you in the right direction.

Have a

[reverse_side]

there's someone who's read and absorbed Frank's wise words... well done Nat.

You just need to feel comfortable on every shot so you can hit a ball straight and where you want it to go... without any other ball on the table, then start looking at what you need to do for a shot and make sure you're delivering the cue in an accurate & repeatable way.

Frank talks of reading the table, then deciding on what to do... even if you've an action like Joe Swail, just make sure you work hard and decide on the right ting to do in whichever way you feel most comfortable with... once you've read the basics though as they'll get your rudder both IN the water and pointing you in the right direction.

Have a

[reverse_side]

there's someone who's read and absorbed Frank's wise words... well done Nat.

You just need to feel comfortable on every shot so you can hit a ball straight and where you want it to go... without any other ball on the table, then start looking at what you need to do for a shot and make sure you're delivering the cue in an accurate & repeatable way.

Frank talks of reading the table, then deciding on what to do... even if you've an action like Joe Swail, just make sure you work hard and decide on the right ting to do in whichever way you feel most comfortable with... once you've read the basics though as they'll get your rudder both IN the water and pointing you in the right direction.

Have a look

[reverse_side]

there's someone who's read and absorbed Frank's wise words... well done Nat.

You just need to feel comfortable on every shot so you can hit a ball straight and where you want it to go... without any other ball on the table, then start looking at what you need to do for a shot and make sure you're delivering the cue in an accurate & repeatable way.

Frank talks of reading the table, then deciding on what to do... even if you've an action like Joe Swail, just make sure you work hard and decide on the right ting to do in whichever way you feel most comfortable with... once you've read the basics though as they'll get your rudder both IN the water and pointing you in the right direction.

Have a look at Fergal O'Brien's site for some practice routines too - good luck.

[Nat5guns]

LOL! whats going on here:confused:

[reverse_side]

the dredded repeating post ghoul.... I might post a test thread and test something.

If only Ranen could upload a movie clip for some analysis!

[Nat5guns]

Yea it happens to me too, freezes for about a minute, in which time ive presses the 'submit post' tab 2-3 times, and out they all come.

[reverse_side]

slightly different for me as I've had fingers burnt from pressing "submit" buttons too many times - nearly got 20 SD memory cards from Dabs by mistake! Tested the SHIFT button, but can't replicate the prob... I thought Admin were loading the skin last week. Sooner the better. (1 nil to CH£L$£A... drat, that's okay though, we'll stuff em in the semi or final - don't care: 7 nil - get in, and in, and in etc)

[Nat5guns]

lol, i cant belive what happened in liverpools game...

[reverse_side]

I know, bizarre - can't score, now they can't stop. Even got the opposition to pop in a few. It's all down to me and the lads saying that they needed to play with more speed; run at players and make sure there's lots of passing options... voila. Glad I've got Gerrard and some of our defenders in my Fantasy Team; your captain scores double too. I like Newcastle too, shame... we'll buy back Owen in the summer after he, Crouch and Rooney terrorise the World!)

[RaNeN]

I have almost got it guys. One last thing for approx how many seconds should I pause at my last swing and when I pause which ball should I look at?

[RaNeN]

Last and final question when I hold the cue should I feel the cue with my last three fingers? I have seen most of the players hold the cue that way? Do you get me?

[reverse_side]

It's not a matter of a particular number of seconds Ranen as when you've watched any snooker recently, you'd be able to get a stopwatch out and time them. If anyone was to do this though, I'd be concerned they're getting too wrapped up in the mechanics of the technique http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_paralysis gives some pointers, instead of knowing WHY they're doing various things.

Think about what the pause allows you to do, why you're doing it and then do it. Whatever you feel comfortable with, as long as it gives you the opportunity to make the backswing a stationary moment of stability and enough time to pick your spot on the object ball and then deliver the cue smoothly.... then that's what you should do. If it was easy to tell you that it's 75 milliseconds, it would be in all the coaching manuals on on websites all round the world.

Maybe if I was to liken the snooker pause and the amount a batsman pulls back his bat then you can see it's all a bit unique to the player. It all depends how comfortable they are with lashing movements or they're more methodical and any other manner of reasons.

It should in no way detract from your stroke and understanding the reasons for what you're doing will give you an insight into how useful it is... and how much better players who DO pause play than those that don't.

ttfn

[RaNeN]

What about holding the cue with the three fingers? Have you people ever noticed that?

[reverse_side]

yep, quite popular, apart from index and middle finger, the others can be used just as a gentle cradle and without the firmness given by the other 2 and the thumb providing a ring of control. Alex higgins little finger was always extended straight and pointing straight at the floor. There's less chance of either scooping the cue upwards on the follow-through if you don't grip the cue too tight. Keeping the cue parallel isn't as easy as it sounds but having a decent grip helps and knowing what will happen if you grip it too tight, with too many fingers, will cement the theory. Imagine cueing the rest with all your hand!! Impossible, so it's similar to cueing normally.

[RaNeN]

I dont think you got me. Its the index finger which is not actually holding the cue. I have got one of Ronnie's 147 videos.In that also i have noticed that Ronnie does not hold the cue with his index finger.

[reverse_side]

I've got that DVD too Ranen; which part shows what you mean best?

[RaNeN]

Ok its in the 2003 world champs.You can see his grip when he pots the second red but not very clear. Then again the best can be seen when he is on 33 and pots the black. I have seen players in my parlour play with the same grip.Again on 41 on the black same shot also on 113 on the black(not very good but visible). Though the best is on 33 and 41. You will get the exact view and understand what I am trying to say.

[Erwan_BZH]

I see what you mean Ranen. I used to check Ronnie's grip quite often but I have to say that it's an unusual way of gripping the cue. And IMO, I don't find it efficient. At least, it doesn't suit me.

[Robert602]

I've just watched that video and it looks like you're right. Certainly the knuckle of Ronnie's index finger is much further out than his other fingers, it's hard to tell whether or not the tip of his finger comes back up and supports the cue.

I'll go and try it out, be back to report in half an hour. :)

[reverse_side]

Snooker FSI! (Forensic Sports Investigatons)

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/Ronnie.gif I'm off to get my cue out now, test it for myself too Rob.... anywhere that's 34" off the floor?

[Robert602]

Well I've given it a go and I'd tend to agree with Erwan. I can't get any power into the ball without the firm 'ring' using my thumb and index finger. Ronnie's certainly not lacking cue power though so he's obviously got a knack for it.

Having looked at a few more videos (all maximums), he seems to have had this grip at least since 1997. I've never noticed it but I'm not really one to analyse the pros technically. I can't be sure though whether Ronnie has his index finger fairly relaxed or whether he just contorts it out in front of his other fingers (maybe it's abnormally long?). I'll try and get a good look next time he's on TV.

[reverse_side]

without playing any shots but experimenting with my grip of the cue Rob, he maybe's using a grip which allows more follow-through on his shots. Hold your cue out in front of you with it about 45o pointing up with a normal firm grip then let it fall to just off parallel with the floor, then look at your grip. index finger juts forward slightly and it allows a less restricted follow through if you were to play a shot, though it would hinder a very full backswing a la selby/higgins.

ferret can have that as a free question from us when he does his next round of interviews!

[RaNeN]

So whats the conclusion guys? Is that a good way of gripping the cue?

[RaNeN]

I noticed a new problem , while playing close shots(where the object ball is about 3-4 inches away from the cue ball) I just dont look at the object ball nor the cue ball I just play the shot in between. Isnt this funny?? I reliased this when I missed a few shots.

[reverse_side]

no conclusion yet; I've not tried it out.as for close shots - you need to change your technique then. When you're 'looking at the object ball', it should be that the angle you've decided on that should be your aim, not the centre of the object ball anyway, if it's the ghost ball technique, then it's the centre of that.(weird formatting still; anyone else got the problem?

[RaNeN]

OK got it . Steve Davis in one of his CD's says
1) Pause.
2) Concentrate on object ball.
3) Strike confidently.
4) Keep your head down.

Isnt this the best answer for my problem?

[RaNeN]

Is it correct? As my Idol says.

[reverse_side]

this is what anyone should be doing for every shot; not really for specific shots.

It's your aiming that needs addressing; you need to practice them as they're not straight-forward.

[reverse_side]

If I had the problem you're explaining Ranen, I'd make up a practice routine so that whenever a similar close-up shot came along in a match, I'd feel more confident of potting it (or playing safe off it) because I'd've practiced it until I was happy.

I hear you ask what routine, well, just making up one now.... I'd set the shot up similar to one you describe having problems with...

1 Place Blue on it's spot
2 The white 'close up' but at an angle; no other balls.
3 Cue up as though you're attempting to pot the blue.
4 Lay the cue down on the bed of the table on this line just short of touching the white
5 Take another ball out of a pocket and place it touching the blue on the potting angle.
6 Compare the line of your cue with the correct angle
7. do this a few times and then go to the ANALYSIS stage

ANALYSIS
there are 3 options in varying degrees
1. You're accurately aiming
2. You're overcutting (too thin, not hitting the obj ball thick enough)
3. You're undercutting (too thick, hitting too much of the obj ball)

If you try to actually pot the blue when you're aiming correctly and it still doesn't go in; it's your cueing action and delivery of the cue that's at fault and in a seriously inaccurate way seeing as the balls are no distance apart. You would need to go back to basics and try playing the white up and down the baulk lilne until you keep the white on the line for example. If it pots, then you can be more confident of your potting ability and allow yourself to use your energies on getting better and judgement of angles.

When you analyse the angle you're cueing, you can start to see if you're doing one thing more than another. The tendency would probably be to hit the blue too thick. If this is the case, you can learn to hit it thinner until you're comfortable with trusting yourself to aim along of being accurate. Vice versa.

After you've tried this routine a few times, you'll start to see a pattern emerging and you can use the results to improve your judgement of angles.

Seeing as I've never given this out as a coaching routine, I'm making it up as I go along... but if you give this a try, then I could guess your judgement of potting balls close-up would improve a great deal.

Let me know how you get on.... it seems maybe you're expecting to win matches against players that have shown themselves to be better than you, without putting in the practice to improve your game: that's a recipe for potential heartbreak. The next time you feel there's a problem, try and work out what could be wrong first. This way, like I do many times, when you're not playing great, you can feel and think what's going wrong (mid frame even) and put it right then and there.

Narrowing down what's causing a problem is something naturally gifted players find easier and therefore being able to say it's your cueing technique or your judgement of angles needs improving, gives you the knowledge of how you need to progress.

Obviously there's a lot of words, ideas and theories here - not to worry if you're struggling with everything. Try the simple things, ask some questions and we'll lead you the right way.

Regards, Dave.

[RaNeN]

Ummm could you make a picture to explain better please?

[reverse_side]

Erm, a thin blue to middle with the balls 3-4 inches away? that's not too difficult is it?

or is it some other part that's not clear, which is hard to image R?

[RaNeN]

Got it! Let me explain. I need to place the cue ball almost perpendicular to the bluse for a cut in the centre? Then aim the blue in the long, put the cue on the bed of the table in line of the aim. Check be placing another ball touching the blue like an imaginary cue ball where it it would hit the blue? Right?

[reverse_side]

So this picture shows putting the blue on it's spot and the white nearby. Cue up to the shot for potting it into the middle pocket, then, put the cue on the table pointing in the same direction.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/1Small.jpg


You can then look down the cue with it on the table to make sure it's the same angle as you cued up to.
Get another ball ('B') and make it a plant to the middle pocket; like this

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Misc/2Small.jpg

now compare the angle of your cue and where you're actually aiming. If you're aiming straight at the centre of ball 'B' - bingo, smack on and you can try potting it too. This picture shows the cue set-up virtually perfect and the cue is directly on the correct angle.

If the cue was pointing anywhere else; it would be too thin or too thick and would make the blue miss on either the left or the righthand side.

The alternative, is to set up lots of shots off the blue to middle and when you miss to one side or the other, correct it until you're perfect. Putting a little chalk mark on the table will allow you to put the white back on the same spot each time; the blue has it's own spot.

Repeating this exercise (whichever way you want to do it) will improve not only your 'close-up' shots, but your blue-to-middle shots.

After you're getting good on this shot, try a ball placed anywhere on the table, or a black off it's spot and practice the same things on these shots. Then whenever a shot like this comes up, then it'll be straight forward to get really close to the pot.

[RaNeN]

WOW , I think this is a great way to correct yourself. I will try it out tomorrow. This is a really great way to find out whats wrong.

[RaNeN]

Actually without the pictures I thought you wanted me to pot the blue into the long pocket. I got it perfectly now though.

[RaNeN]

Oh , Another new thing I noticed about me is the way I hold my cue is not correct. I mean in my palm. When I hold the cue........how do I tell you?
In simple I just dont hold the cue in line with my hand.

[reverse_side]

long=corner then; glad you can imagine eaxctly what I meant.

Missing the pot isn't too important early on, so don't worry. It's your REACTION to what happens that's important.... too thin, stroke it thicker. Too thick a contact, look at why your eyes got it wrong and feel yourself learning and perceiving the CORRECT angle better and better each time.

Keep the technique calm and positive, lively and accurate... vary the object ball's position once you're potting over 80% of them. Pocket pace, firmer and harder - if you really get the hang of it, see what left and righthand side affects the shot.

If there are any other elements to your game that your struggling with; practicing them with iron out your issues.... you may need some guidance though; are there coaches or experienced players willing to have a look at your game?

[reverse_side]

I just dont hold the cue in line with my hand.

does that mean the direction of your fingers don't point in the same direction as the cue? How does this cause a problem?

[RaNeN]

I think its going to be difficult for you to understand but I will try my best. The problem with me holding the cue is that my right wrist is bent a little inwards. I now keep trying to get it straight. For every shot I play I remember to play it with my wrist in line with my hand , I play better ,pot better. I had noticed this from Steve Davis's CD.

I used to miss a few slow shots earlier. By slow shots I mean to say like a few reds around the black and we just need to push the reds slowly into the pocket for the black. I used to miss these simple reds and get damn frustrated. Its better now.

[RaNeN]

I tried doing this today. I first couldnt put the cue on the bed because it wouldnt come in because of the cushion. I later put the blue below its spot about half way from the middle and the blue spot. I did wht you said . I noticed that I was not aiming properly I was hitting the pink jaw(far jaw). I practiced for about half an hour today , didnt have lots of time. Tomorrow I will Practice maybe for an hour or even more.

[reverse_side]

who's just learnt how to attach imgs; ho de ho!

[RaNeN]

Lol , got carried away by the attachment things. I placed the cue ball straight in line with the green and the pocket. I hot the far jaw. This happens for the brown as well. Would you believe I have pot the brown 1 thousand times by hitting it on the near jaw and it endded up in the corner black pocket.

[reverse_side]

If you want more advice Ranen, use the "quote" feature to move my post over here.

[RaNeN]

Didnt get you?

[reverse_side]

Follow this

1. would you like a reply to your question? if yes, go to 2. If no, goto 10.
2. do you know how to use the quote feature? if yes go to 4. if not, 3.
3. Practice it, go to 4.
4. move the other reply you want put in this thread using the quote function.

10 - no problem, you need do nothing.

This way, it'll make more sense; unless you're not bothered.

(PS good ole Ian Livingstone!)

[RaNeN]

Follow this

1. would you like a reply to your question? if yes, go to 2. If no, goto 10.
2. do you know how to use the quote feature? if yes go to 4. if not, 3.
3. Practice it, go to 4.
4. move the other reply you want put in this thread using the quote function.

10 - no problem, you need do nothing.



There is this allright???

[RaNeN]

Which question do you want me to move here? I still dont get that?

[reverse_side]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/reverse_side/Smileys/Laughroll.gif Oh flip....

[RaNeN]

U laughing at me??? awww

[Juza]

I joined the forum today and as i have read through the forum i have really been impressed by the competent answers espcially from reverse_side but also from others so surely this is the place to ask my question :) .

I have problem with my wrist. While i play the shot my wrist tends to turn inwards causing some side spin to cue ball. This happens espcially with power shots when i have to pull my cue back more. When i pull the cue back the wrist is pretty straight but immediatly when i start to push the cue through the wrist tends to turn inwards ( to right ) and this also causes my hole hand to go to left( i'm left handed).

So any advice to stop this happening? Please answer!

[Semih_Sayginer]

as youre left handed:-

step your right foot forward a half and inch or so forward, especially on the type of shots you mention....

(also, make sure your grip isnt too loose on your backstroke)