Aramith Tournment Champion 2 1/16 Premium Snooker Balls

[toppotter1967]

hI all
With all your knowledge out there I am thinking of buying these balls on e-bay he will throw in an extra cue ball as well total cost £91 including delivery are these the geniune thing and are these the heavier of the balls read a lot of threads to do with balls and I am very confused . ebay number

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280465270042
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Toppotter1967

[Bigmeek]

hI all
With all your knowledge out there I am thinking of buying these balls on e-bay he will throw in an extra cue ball as well total cost £91 including delivery are these the geniune thing and are these the heavier of the balls read a lot of threads to do with balls and I am very confused . ebay number

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280465270042
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Toppotter1967

Hi mate, just replied to your other post on "balls" so see my comments. The ones on this post are the Tournament Champion balls (Blue Box) and at around 142g each are the heavier balls and the ones that all the good players use.
In terms of whether they are genuine or not then I couldn't really say. Apparently the blue can be a slightly different colour but you won't be able to tell that without buying them and comparing them to another set!!
The safest route is to buy from a reputable company like Craftsman Cues. I don't think they're that much dearer than you've been quoted. The other post gives a link to a website (JohnParrott?) which has a deal of balls and case for £135.

[whufcarl]

Hi mate, just replied to your other post on "balls" so see my comments. The ones on this post are the Tournament Champion balls (Blue Box) and at around 142g each are the heavier balls and the ones that all the good players use.
In terms of whether they are genuine or not then I couldn't really say. Apparently the blue can be a slightly different colour but you won't be able to tell that without buying them and comparing them to another set!!
The safest route is to buy from a reputable company like Craftsman Cues. I don't think they're that much dearer than you've been quoted. The other post gives a link to a website (JohnParrott?) which has a deal of balls and case for £135.

If you get the deal for £135 with the peradon case then i would recommend this! i bought the peradon case and simply put, its the nuts! especially if your leaving the balls at your local club, do you really want everybody using them?
i guess its up to you, but once you get a set, you wont be disappointed

[stephen povey]

I have just bought a set off e-bay with a case for £120, i thoght they were the wrong colour but checked them down at the club and they were fine! looking forward to using them today and every time i play.!....... from now on!!

[Bigmeek]

I have just bought a set off e-bay with a case for £120, i thoght they were the wrong colour but checked them down at the club and they were fine! looking forward to using them today and every time i play.!....... from now on!!

Assume it was the TC? Was it a company selling on e-bay or an individual? Decent case?

[ADR147]

be very careful with these folks - the current trade price is £69.95 plus vat plus delivery so about £85 to me!!!

[cazmac1]

I brought a second set off eBay from snooker loopy. They were advertised for £75 plus £10 P&P or make an offer. I made an offer of 60 pounds and it was accepted. They play better than my original set which cost me £90. I don't think my first set were right some how and when I weighed them I found some weighed 141 and some 142. I tried to get them replace by aramith but they weren't interested.
Get the real thing and your be more than happy.

[DandyA]

I brought a second set off eBay from snooker loopy. They were advertised for £75 plus £10 P&P or make an offer. I made an offer of 60 pounds and it was accepted. They play better than my original set which cost me £90. I don't think my first set were right some how and when I weighed them I found some weighed 141 and some 142. I tried to get them replace by aramith but they weren't interested.
Get the real thing and your be more than happy.

141g and 142g sounds absolutely fine to me - I thought the tolerance across a whole set of snooker balls suitable for pro play should be no more than 3g ...

[ADR147]

if you are going to buy a set i would go here - and say i sent you - hopefully simon will feel guilty and give me a discount! http://www.craftsmancues.com/acatalo...ker_balls.html

[cazmac1]

I wasn't aware that there was a 3 g tolerance. Thanks for that info.
I was complaining because in the aramith literature they claim that each ball is hand selected for a perfect match I assume that this is both in size and weight.
Are you sure that the tolerance isn’t between different sets of balls and not between individual balls in a set?

[DandyA]

I wasn't aware that there was a 3 g tolerance. Thanks for that info.
I was complaining because in the aramith literature they claim that each ball is hand selected for a perfect match I assume that this is both in size and weight.
Are you sure that the tolerance isn’t between different sets of balls and not between individual balls in a set?

I got the 3g figure from the rules ...

2. Balls

The balls shall be of an approved composition and shall each have a diameter of 52.5mm with a tolerance of +/- 0.05mm and:
(a) they shall be of equal weight within a tolerance of 3g per set
(b) a ball or set of balls may be changed by agreement between the players or on a decision by the referee.

Of course, Aramith T/Cs may well be better than that but there's bound to be some variation in the set ... interestingly, the rules don't state anything about the weight - you can play with ping-pong balls if you like as long as they're 52.5mm diameter ...

Anything point of interest (which someone else pointed out on the forum a while back) is that 2 1/16" balls are not within spec since they are 52.3875mm ie smaller than the minimum permitted 52.45mm (52.5-0.5) ...

[cazmac1]

Rule 2a doesn't make any sense. It gives a figure of 3 grams but gives no relation to any weight and does not give a + or - , so if you have a ball that weighs 142 and another that weighs 145 and another that weighs 139 what is the correct weight. Or are they saying the whole set must be within 3 grams and again of what weight??????

[RGCirencester]

Rule 2a doesn't make any sense. It gives a figure of 3 grams but gives no relation to any weight and does not give a + or - , so if you have a ball that weighs 142 and another that weighs 145 and another that weighs 139 what is the correct weight. Or are they saying the whole set must be within 3 grams and again of what weight??????

It doesn't specify a weight, tournament champion balls are actually heavier than the premier balls.
The 3g tolerance is for the entire set of balls, so if you had a 139 and 145 that would be 6g and not within spec. The set must all be within 3g of one another, regardless of the weight.

[cazmac1]

I'm sure what your saying is correct. but it still seems strange. So you can have a set of balls in a WCM and all the colours and reds weigh 142g and the white ball can weigh 139?. Im not a pro but this must effect the potting angle?
PS: why don't they just give a weight, say 143 for example and say +- 1.5 grams doesn't that make more sence

[RGCirencester]

no because that would be the same thing, because to have +- you need a set weight to start with yet none is stipulated for snooker. Many types of balls can and have been used in the past and currently.
It shouldn't effect the potting angles having balls of different weight but say a light white would effect topspin (and increase backspin). But as long as you get a good set (ie. tournament champion) you shouldn't have any problems like that.