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    How many professional snooker players have there been down the years?


    It must be a few thousand. More to the point, what are they all doing now?


    Very few hit the heights of course. This is true of any sport. There are several household names but many more whose names resonate only in their own households.


    I was thinking about this earlier today because I found an old notebook from the late 1990s covered in my scrawled transcripts of press conferences from long forgotten matches.


    One such was with Nick Walker. Nick was a good player and a very nice lad. He got in the top 64 but never the top 32.


    In 1999, he qualified for the Crucible and beat Alain Robidoux – mired in a horrible slump of defeats. But the match I will always remember was in the qualifiers.


    Nick was 9-0 up on Rod Lawler. The evening session was to be a coronation.


    Rod won a couple of frames but there was no need for undue panic. At 9-4, though, Nick was spending the interval perhaps a little less relaxed than he had begun the session.


    At 9-8, he had every right to be in bits. It would surely be the most incredible comeback the game had ever seen if Lawler duly completed the win.


    He didn’t. Nick won 10-8. You’d have thought he’d won the title, such was his relief.


    So Nick Walker reached the last 16 of the World Championship but, just a few years later, he retired. He accepted that he couldn’t make the sort of living he desired from snooker and so went and did something else (I believe as a recruitment consultant, or some such).


    I understand he has been very successful at this. It can’t have been easy putting the cue away – and so his boyhood passion – but he did not believe snooker owed him a living. He accepted he was never going to be world champion and sought out something which would give him the life he wanted.


    However, if you’ve played snooker all your life, and don’t have academic qualifications, then the alternatives are unclear.


    It’s never too late to be educated or to train to do something else but when snooker is all you have ever wanted to do it can be hard to even think about anything other than a green baize life.


    Every month in Snooker Scene we run a questionnaire in which players are asked what they would be doing if they weren’t a snooker professional. Most months they struggle to think of anything.


    Of course, years ago players had had jobs before turning professional. Terry Griffiths was a postman. Ray Reardon was a policeman. Joe Johnson was a gas fitter. Dennis Taylor worked in a paper mill.


    It gave this generation of players a gratitude for the sudden riches they were able to earn from a sport they loved.


    For the more recent crop of players, life after snooker is often uncertain. Some drive taxis. Some run pubs. Like anyone else they do what they can to make a living.


    Silvino Francisco, the 1985 British Open, ended up working in a fish 'n' chip shop.


    Danny Fowler, a top 32 player in the late 80s/early 90s, was famously a bin-man. I heard that after he dropped off the circuit he spent some time driving a delivery van for a maggot farm.


    Life in the margins of the snooker world is nothing if not varied. There was one player from Singapore who was even said to be a gigolo.


    Graham Cripsey eventually found professional snooker to be too precarious a profession and so went back to his old job, as a wall of death rider.


    Kirk Stevens, his life and career severely affected by drug addiction, drifted into employment as a car salesman and, for a time, a lumberjack, a job he gave up, not unreasonably, after discovering he was scared of heights.


    Ian McCulloch, a good friend of Nick Walker’s, has set up a new events company, North West Sports Events, to promote exhibitions and corporate dinners featuring sportsmen.


    Good on him. Ian always was industrious, never one to sit around expecting things to happen but going out and making the best of himself. He also works for William Hill’s radio service.


    Michael Holt is doing a business degree through the Open University. Others, such as Ali Carter, have business interests (and in Ali’s case a pilot’s licence).


    There are of course ways to stay intimately involved in snooker once your playing days are over. Some players open clubs. Some becomes coaches. None ever seem to become referees.


    Some turn to broadcasting. Neal Foulds has been one of the most successful at this because of his versatility (he knows a lot more than just snooker) and the fact that he is clearly very good.


    Sporting careers can be short. They can also be relatively undistinguished. Only the hardcore will even have heard of some of the names in this piece.


    But I suspect many of the pros who have drifted away from the circuit would come back in an ideal world.


    Snooker is a passion which cannot easily be banished.



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  • #2
    Originally Posted by ferret View Post
    [FONT=Arial]...Life in the margins of the snooker world is nothing if not varied. There was one player from Singapore who was even said to be a gigolo...
    There you go opening old wounds... I thought I've put all that "behind" me... Lol.

    But yeah, as with any other sports, unless you are exceptionally good, or with nothing to lose, or come from a well-to-do family, it is one huge gamble to turn professional.

    Good article albeit rather morose. It made me reflect on one's station in life, if there is such a thing like that and bugger all we can do about it.
    When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back. GET MAD!!

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    • #3
      Whatever happened to Roger Garrett?

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      • #4
        One of the most interesting reads yet imo :snooker:
        "You have to play the game like it means nothing, when in fact it means everything to you" Steve Davis.

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        • #5
          Anyone remember Paddy Brown (Irish Pro) health played a part in paddy snooker playing, He now runs a snooker club in Manchester,
          Eugene Hughes has a snooker club in killarney and still playing the over 40s amateur tour.
          Terry Murphy from Northern Ireland turned to the drink last i heard.

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by platt View Post
            Anyone remember Paddy Brown (Irish Pro) health played a part in paddy snooker playing, He now runs a snooker club in Manchester,
            Eugene Hughes has a snooker club in killarney and still playing the over 40s amateur tour.
            Terry Murphy from Northern Ireland turned to the drink last i heard.
            Yes, I remember Paddy. Decent player in his day, but never quite reached his full potential when turning professional, having showed alot of promise as an amateur..
            "Statistics won't tell you much about me. I play for love, not records."

            ALEX HIGGINS

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            • #7
              Well, for the Canadian pros here are some that I know:

              Cliff Thorburn - still playing in the Legends, snooker coach and still playing in the odd tournament in Canada
              Kirk Stevens - still playing, not sure if he's actually working at another job
              Alain Robidoux - still playing, works in a snooker club and loves to golf
              John White - owns Shooters snooker club in Toronto
              Ed Galati - in between owning snooker clubs, looking for a venue, still plays
              Bob Chaperone - driving taxi in Sudbury and still playing in invitational events
              Jimmy Wych - sports commentator for TSN and ESPN on pool
              Tom Finstad - car salesman (? not certain) and still plays, runner-up in Canadians this year to Alex Pagulayan

              There are more around but I haven't heard any news on them in years

              Terry
              Terry Davidson
              IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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              • #8
                Terry,

                How about Mario Morra? ( I'm REALLY showing my age now ) and too lazy to Google.

                And talking about my age, did you know a player by the name of Frank Jonik? ( nick: bionic ).

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                • #9
                  inoff:

                  Mario now plays 9-ball and 10-ball and did quite well in this year's Canadian Champs. I believe he also manages his son John, who is a pool pro. I'm not sure if Mario works or not but I see him every time I'm in Shooters.

                  I haven't heard anything of 'Bionic' in a long time. For sure he's not playing either snooker or pool.

                  Terry
                  Terry Davidson
                  IBSF Master Coach & Examiner

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                  • #10
                    At the time (1982) Paddy at 17 was the youngest All - Ireland snooker champion. And I remember a good while back - around 1986 - Granada TV made a programme titled 'Who Knows Paddy Browne'...........It was about his life as a journeyman Professional.

                    Also, Thats sad about Terry Murphy - he was a fine player and was ranked around the top 32 for a good while and once beat Ronnie in the UK.

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                    • #11
                      what does mick price do these days or nick pearce also i thought terry griffiths was a miner
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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by Terry Davidson View Post
                        Well, for the Canadian pros here are some that I know:

                        Cliff Thorburn - still playing in the Legends, snooker coach and still playing in the odd tournament in Canada
                        Kirk Stevens - still playing, not sure if he's actually working at another job
                        Alain Robidoux - still playing, works in a snooker club and loves to golf
                        John White - owns Shooters snooker club in Toronto
                        Ed Galati - in between owning snooker clubs, looking for a venue, still plays
                        Bob Chaperone - driving taxi in Sudbury and still playing in invitational events
                        Jimmy Wych - sports commentator for TSN and ESPN on pool
                        Tom Finstad - car salesman (? not certain) and still plays, runner-up in Canadians this year to Alex Pagulayan

                        There are more around but I haven't heard any news on them in years

                        Terry
                        if im not wrong, i think kirk is a car salesman as well

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by LittleMissAlexa View Post
                          what does mick price do these days or nick pearce also i thought terry griffiths was a miner
                          no, I believe it was Ray Reardon who started his working life down the pit (with his dad) but very quickly changed jobs.
                          Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
                            I believe it was Ray Reardon who started his working life down the pit (with his dad) but very quickly changed jobs.
                            That's spot on Dean, he then quit mining when he was buried under a rockfall for 3 hours to become a policeman.
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                            • #15
                              Mick Price works at a local college teaching Maths in his home town Nuneaton. I've heard he may have played in a PTC recently. Trying his luck again.

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