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    we know that if you have a cue thats a little heavier then your gonna get more rotation from the white. what weight is judds cue?
    by the look he likes a bit of give in his cue so, is it resonance, weight, techique or, what do you think the mixture is?

  • #2
    Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
    we know that if you have a cue thats a little heavier then your gonna get more rotation from the white. what weight is judds cue?
    by the look he likes a bit of give in his cue so, is it resonance, weight, techique or, what do you think the mixture is?
    A few things are at work J6. We'd all screw back that far on a shaved 6811 M cloth, with great technique. I believe he uses a Parris Traditional, semi stiff and a bit whippy. But Judd also has great technique and lets his cue do the work, lots of acceleration but not forceful. Robbo is the same. They've both got Parris cues and that choice shaftwood helps as well.

    I don't think Judd's cue is heavier than most, is it 18oz roughly? There is a tipping point where more weight leads to less spin due to the difficulty of accelerating a heavy cue. Cues also lose feel as more lead is added so most pros are between 17-19oz.
    Last edited by Master Blaster; 2 April 2015, 01:17 PM.

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    • #3
      Id put it down to how he accelerates the cue, his cue action isn't silky smooth like that of Shaun Murphy who i think times the shot better but the speed at which Trump gets the cue moving

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      • #4
        The cue is definitely NOT a traditional, think it's a Special

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by jrc750 View Post
          The cue is definitely NOT a traditional, think it's a Special
          Its a special mate

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          • #6
            Its 17.5 oz, 58", 9.5mm.

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            • #7
              Judd uses a Traditional? lol

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              • #8
                Probably an ultimate like Ronnie's that has the traditional design.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by cueman View Post
                  Its 17.5 oz, 58", 9.5mm.
                  Cheers for that. I did say I believe, not know(!). So, it's at the lighter end of the scale, I BELIEVE Ronnie is a tad over 18oz. Davis, I BELIEVE has a +190z cue at one point but he hardly developed more cue power, it's all in the balance of weight/acceleration, I BELIEVE! lol. Judd's tip size is pretty standard as well.

                  Dave Walton: I agree with you, his cue action is a bit Judd-ery, not as smooth as Robbo's. I think this was one aspect of his game some of the pros and coaches questioned when he broke through, as well as his stance etc. It suits him though.

                  I've noticed an increase in my own cue power, after dropping down from 19.25oz to 17oz unweighted. But that could also be to do with coaching and changing fundamentals; I bow down to my prof.
                  Last edited by Master Blaster; 2 April 2015, 04:24 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Jude's cue is not anywhere near the traditional. It's four splices of caretto on white veneers

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by jono* View Post
                      Jude's cue is not anywhere near the traditional. It's four splices of caretto on white veneers
                      Yes, another lovely Parris! Fabulous chevrons JP.

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by jono* View Post
                        Jude's cue is not anywhere near the traditional. It's four splices of caretto on white veneers
                        Look at the picture MB just put up. Judd just had 4 splicing a instead of 1.

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
                          Yes, another lovely Parris! Fabulous chevrons JP.

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                          For me personally and I'm not questioning anyone else's decision on how they want their chevrons its up to them entirely, but I dont look at these type of players as serious players more hobbiests so to speak. You can't tell a good shaft by its chevrons.

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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by Leo View Post
                            For me personally and I'm not questioning anyone else's decision on how they want their chevrons its up to them entirely, but I dont look at these type of players as serious players more hobbiests so to speak. You can't tell a good shaft by its chevrons.
                            I agree with you but JP selects his boards according to density, feel, straight/nice grain and likely number of chevrons when planed down. Judd's is a Parris rack cue, so he went in the shop, says I'll have that one and bought it. Or at least that's what a member said, I BELIEVE! So Judd wanted lots of chevrons, takes a hit with it and likes it. There were probably cues with less chevrons, less equally spaced but that's the one the man wanted. Apparently, it's a bit whippy, I BELIEVE, which suits his game fine. I think he had a Cue Craft, I BELIEVE, before this cue. I can't remember which one, was it a custom or Monarch? Deano?

                            Anyway, it's interesting that he picks a cue with a shaft that looks as good as any Ultimate. So one of the top players is not playing with an Ultimate. It's still a JP though fellas! pmsl.

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by Master Blaster View Post
                              I agree with you but JP selects his boards according to density, feel, straight/nice grain and likely number of chevrons when planed down. Judd's is a Parris rack cue, so he went in the shop, says I'll have that one and bought it. Or at least that's what a member said, I BELIEVE! So Judd wanted lots of chevrons, takes a hit with it and likes it. There were probably cues with less chevrons, less equally spaced but that's the one the man wanted. Apparently, it's a bit whippy, I BELIEVE, which suits his game fine. I think he had a Cue Craft, I BELIEVE, before this cue. I can't remember which one, was it a custom or Monarch? Deano?

                              Anyway, it's interesting that he picks a cue with a shaft that looks as good as any Ultimate. So one of the top players is not playing with an Ultimate. It's still a JP though fellas! pmsl.
                              I think you need to take another look at an ultimate and get back to me if you think Judd's cue is similar to an ultimate?

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