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    Hi all,

    Can anyone help with comments on the impact on playability of a cue vs total splice length please?

    Cheers
    Last edited by crhiu; 22 June 2015, 04:24 PM.

  • #2
    weight, balance and the type of wood used for the butt are the first things that come to mind. why, what are you thinking?

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    • #3
      Splice length is mainly cosmetic, although can affect the balance point of a cue, but most cues are weighted these days and the weight can be positioned so as to alter the balance.
      Most players will have a preference, I like the cue to balance right on the bottom of the splice fingers, but wouldn't have thought it would affect playability?
      No one is listening until you make a mistake!

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      • #4
        I'm ordering a cue at the moment with a plain ebony butt, and the cuemaker has said that the total splice length is 22in. I measured up the 2 cues i have at the moment and my mannock replica has splice length of 25in while my other cue with a plain ebony butt is 20in. Just wondering if this affects the playing characteristics of the cue, particularly how stiff the cue plays especially at the tip section. Another way of looking at it, longer splice length equals shorter comparative shaft length.

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by crhiu View Post
          I'm ordering a cue at the moment with a plain ebony butt, and the cuemaker has said that the total splice length is 22in. I measured up the 2 cues i have at the moment and my mannock replica has splice length of 25in while my other cue with a plain ebony butt is 20in. Just wondering if this affects the playing characteristics of the cue, particularly how stiff the cue plays especially at the tip section. Another way of looking at it, longer splice length equals shorter comparative shaft length.
          As J6 already mantioned ,, weight and balance are the main factor in playblty of the cue !! Also wood ( what kind of wood ) is realy important .
          I do'nt think the length of splic has any effect on playblty of the cue !!

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          • #6
            Originally Posted by crhiu View Post
            I'm ordering a cue at the moment with a plain ebony butt, and the cuemaker has said that the total splice length is 22in. I measured up the 2 cues i have at the moment and my mannock replica has splice length of 25in while my other cue with a plain ebony butt is 20in. Just wondering if this affects the playing characteristics of the cue, particularly how stiff the cue plays especially at the tip section. Another way of looking at it, longer splice length equals shorter comparative shaft length.
            is the cue youve orered gonna be a 3/4 or 1pc? and whats the overall specs, like the balance point an weight?

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            • #7
              ive noticed mike's legend cues have a longer butt splicing than other similar cues ive seen. It does give a more forward balance as play with one myself.

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              • #8
                the weight of the shaft will be a big factor is the overall weight of the cue and its balance, but longer splices kinda means shorter shafts being used in the cues constrution

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                • #9
                  Hi J6, cue will be 3/4 jointed, 58 1/4 inch long and 18.5oz. I have no idea what the balance point will be and did not specify anything on this.

                  Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                  is the cue youve orered gonna be a 3/4 or 1pc? and whats the overall specs, like the balance point an weight?

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                  • #10
                    That's right and also what I'm thinking.... How would a shorter ash shaft play vs a longer one?
                    Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
                    the weight of the shaft will be a big factor is the overall weight of the cue and its balance, but longer splices kinda means shorter shafts being used in the cues constrution

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by crhiu View Post
                      Hi J6, cue will be 3/4 jointed, 58 1/4 inch long and 18.5oz. I have no idea what the balance point will be and did not specify anything on this.
                      well thats standard to have 22" splaices on a 3/4

                      Originally Posted by crhiu View Post
                      That's right and also what I'm thinking.... How would a shorter ash shaft play vs a longer one?
                      in my experiance nothing, for me it comes down to the quality an taper of the shaft

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by crhiu View Post
                        I'm ordering a cue at the moment with a plain ebony butt, and the cuemaker has said that the total splice length is 22in. I measured up the 2 cues i have at the moment and my mannock replica has splice length of 25in while my other cue with a plain ebony butt is 20in. Just wondering if this affects the playing characteristics of the cue, particularly how stiff the cue plays especially at the tip section. Another way of looking at it, longer splice length equals shorter comparative shaft length.
                        The tips of the splices on a one piece hand planed cue are paper thin, so the splice length can be altered by an inch just by the final sanding. The butt hardwood removed holds no weight of any consequence and the shaft remains 90% ash at least six inches into the butt.
                        A 3/4 spliced is different in that the shorter shaft has been planed to recieve the hardwood splices at a greater angle, tips are therefore shorter and shallower and thicker, but seeing as the metal joint sits just below them, and the butt can be solid hardwood, it's this that has a greater effect on the balance point of the cue than where exactly the splices end.
                        As someone has mentioned already, seeing as most modern one piece cues are weighted with some kind of metal, and some even made from two different pieces of ash anyway, that are weighted and joined before the cue is made, the exact point where the splices are is usually of little consequence.

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                        • #13
                          Thanks guys for all your feedback, been very helpful. Cheers all!

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