Cueing across please help

[Snookclops]

Hi everyone!

Greetings from the West Country. I'm a regular 15-20 breaker but I have finally begun doing White up the spots and it's clear I cue across and apply right hand side.

The ball lands to the left of the top cush and it straightens and comes back on the right.

Playing deep screw gives it a violent right hand side almost hitting side Cush.

I'm right handed and due to a very poor right eye, left eye Dom.

I have tried cueing through it a little to left but still not straight. If it's a med power it's reasonable but never back to cue, just back on right.

I could do this ok on another table with thicker cloths and worn out cushions. Right back to the tip. My current club has good finer cloths.

No idea what to do other than practice

Help!

[snookerdad]

Without actually seeing you in action, it's difficult to say without just going through some general points.

In my experience, sorting out the cueing problem of a 15-20 breaker is a lot easier than sorting the cueing problem of a century breaker.

Tim Dunkley (World Snooker coach)

[tomlimcj]

Hi everyone!

Greetings from the West Country. I'm a regular 15-20 breaker but I have finally begun doing White up the spots and it's clear I cue across and apply right hand side.

The ball lands to the left of the top cush and it straightens and comes back on the right.

Playing deep screw gives it a violent right hand side almost hitting side Cush.

I'm right handed and due to a very poor right eye, left eye Dom.

I have tried cueing through it a little to left but still not straight. If it's a med power it's reasonable but never back to cue, just back on right.

I could do this ok on another table with thicker cloths and worn out cushions. Right back to the tip. My current club has good finer cloths.

No idea what to do other than practice

Help!

Are you delivering straight?
At the end of your delivery, follow through and stop. See if your cuetip is pointing down your line of sight or to the right? Try it soft, med and hard shots see if there are any deviations?

Ultimately, you could try, turning body a little to the left.
Watching your drawback and delivery, if you are actually drawing back straight, and delivering straight or drawing back to the left and delivering to the right.
See if your elbow is straight up, or pointing to the left?
Placing the bridge a little to the left.

Note, all these tweaks could make your game worse. See if you are delivering straight down the line first or not. But snookerdad is right, a vid could help us understand your problems more.

[barrywhite]

Where abouts in the SW? Maybe member is near you who could have a look at you? Failing that, you need to do a video. If you can get someone to hold the camera showing you down the cue from the tip to your grip, a shot of your grip in action from the side and from the rear, and a side on view of your cue action, I'm sure one of the coaches can let you know what to improve.

I had your problem a few years ago. It affected long potting, 10ft pots because the cue ball wasn't arriving in the intended place due to side. Bingo also had your problem, spent a long time correcting it but is now World Champion, so these things can be improved substantially! What I found to be my problem was that the bridge arm wasn't over to the right enough and wasn't properly in line with my R foot which I use as foot in line stance (Davis school of stance). Part of the problem was me holding my cue at the end. It's 58'' and I found that by moving my grip hand up the butt half an inch or so and extending the bridge arm an inch or so more, I was able to get my grip hand and bridge hand more on the shot line and not cueing across this line. I've often seen folk holding a long cue with the cue dangling over the bridge a big length and you can see the grip hand moving left and right when they feather. I also found that I imparted less side on the ball as I reduced the bridge to ball distance. I've got this down to about 8.5'' now. Have a look at Selby, he's like a giant extended spider. He's able to maximise the distance between the bridge and the grip on the cue but his R forearm is still square to the cue when he's down. Check to see if your forearm to cue angle is 90 degrees. If it's a lot more or less, that can also cause the cue going offline. If you have a long BtB, let's say 12'', there will always be more chance of imparting unintended side.

All these things can be tried and adjusted. I've just been firing my 380ft/sec crossbow in the wind and drizzle. Snooker is quite easy really! lol

[Snookclops]

Thanks guys, I videod and will upload soon.

My forearm is NOT in line with cue. My elbow is out and forearm is at about 25 degrees bent in.

I know it's not right but I would struggle to know what to adjust, or even if it's worth the effort of remodelling my cue action. Just got my high break in a match of 32 with my wonky forearm - but I can bang in little breaks all day , until a long pot. I'm fine up to about 7ft.

If I could get similar consistency a little longer range, I think I'd get a 50 no sweat!

On another note, nic b did some videos on impact throw and this concept has improved my potting incredibly - I could never understand why greater than 1/2 ball came out thicker than intended. Wish I had that knowledge earlier as hitting cuts deliberately a touch thinner is finding the middle of the pocket.

[barrywhite]

Thanks guys, I videod and will upload soon.

My forearm is NOT in line with cue. My elbow is out and forearm is at about 25 degrees bent in.

I know it's not right but I would struggle to know what to adjust, or even if it's worth the effort of remodelling my cue action. Just got my high break in a match of 32 with my wonky forearm - but I can bang in little breaks all day , until a long pot. I'm fine up to about 7ft.

If I could get similar consistency a little longer range, I think I'd get a 50 no sweat!

On another note, nic b did some videos on impact throw and this concept has improved my potting incredibly - I could never understand why greater than 1/2 ball came out thicker than intended. Wish I had that knowledge earlier as hitting cuts deliberately a touch thinner is finding the middle of the pocket.

Nice one. Over six ft is when faults start showing up. A friend has the same sort of elbow position as you and he's hit a 138. He compensates with the way he opens and closes his grip and this keeps the cue on line. But you're right, for consistently accurate cueing, you'll need a vertical forearm. I'm sure the experts will advise corrections once the vid is uploaded.

[Snookclops]

Thanks. Just experimented at the club and although it FEELS like I don't stand a cat in hells chance of hitting it straight, boy does it go straighter. All I'm doing is just pulling elbow in. The wrist position is unfamiliar.

Tried to upload to YouTube but failed, will do it again.

It's going to take a good while getting touch back as this doesn't feel natural, but I'm in this game for the long haul. :-) Ronnie, Judd and Opus Dei need competition.

[Snookclops]

Ps the acid test was cueing the spots and the ball is still coming up slightly to right still, but perhaps a ball and a half at baulk Or less. Old style it was further over almost yellow spot!

How I've knocked in 15 and 20s like this I don't know but as you say, it's not an issue in and around the balls. I lose matches because I screw up a safety or miss a long red,

[nicko70]

i have the same problem, try foot on line, tip 2 cue ball, and then chest 2 cue, dont move yr cue until youve put yr chest 2 cue, try it and it might work 4 you