help some tips for keeping elbow still up

[swestlife]

good day all i'd like to ask or get some idea of keeping my elbow up after the delivery,,id tried this but in front of the mirror my shooting elbow is at the back of my head after the cue deliver to the shot my elbow is down and you cannot see at back of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojqa4kjjkIA you can see in this video of a snooker player the elbow is still at the top of his head after the shot,,when i do this i feel i stop the cue and my follow through is still limited and my observation when i do to force the elbow up after the shot my cue tip point down to the table cloth and hit my chest..any some drill to do this right..i think when you can do thid in right way you can get straight cueing...thanks im not fluent in english speak/language hope you can understand what i talking out..

[Catch 22]

You can "lock" your shoulder into position which stops the elbow dropping if you really want . It's hard to explain but you can activate the muscle responsible for moving the shoulder blades which stops your shoulder moving , which in turn stops the elbow dropping

Joe Davis explains it in his book to imagine you are drawing back the bow string in archery and you are holiding the string back .

[DeanH]

help some tips for keeping elbow still up

If what you currently do works for you, you pot the balls and you are comfortable - don't force a change this is RIGHT for you. Just because someone else does something different to you does not make it right for you.
There are other players who drop their elbow and there are some on TSF trying to change their way of playing to include the elbow drop, and here you are trying to stop it. :wink:
If it is comfortable and you play well don't change

[swestlife]

thanks for replying i want to improve i try some tip and technique here and from step by step i can say to my game is getting better and better erasing my all bad habits in playing this game..i need more consistent everytime i shot..

[DeanH]

help some tips for keeping elbow still up

The elbow drop is not a bad habit, just one that some people do and others don't.
Don't change your setup if you are comfortable with it, practise at the table, work on potting and positioning the white exercises to gain the consistency

[Slasher]

What happens after you hit the cue ball has no effect, dropping or not dropping is just a comfort thing so do what ever feels right and keeps any muscle tension out of the stroke.

[Big Splash!]

good day all i'd like to ask or get some idea of keeping my elbow up after the delivery,,id tried this but in front of the mirror my shooting elbow is at the back of my head after the cue deliver to the shot my elbow is down and you cannot see at back of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojqa4kjjkIA you can see in this video of a snooker player the elbow is still at the top of his head after the shot,,when i do this i feel i stop the cue and my follow through is still limited and my observation when i do to force the elbow up after the shot my cue tip point down to the table cloth and hit my chest..any some drill to do this right..i think when you can do thid in right way you can get straight cueing...thanks im not fluent in english speak/language hope you can understand what i talking out..

PJ Nolan is a great coach. Ask him. Ronnie uses elbow drop, Dell Hill teaches it. It's all about dropping the elbow through the line of the shot, not inwards or outwards. If done correctly, it's fine, as the Genius has shown.

[Big Splash!]

Here's Ronnie at about 5:00 showing you how elbow drop can help you get through the ball. That's the nice thing about elbow drop. Also, fixing the shoulder and using the elbow as a hinge puts more strain on the body. It's all down to the individual player. No wrong or right.

[swestlife]

What happens after you hit the cue ball has no effect, dropping or not dropping is just a comfort thing so do what ever feels right and keeps any muscle tension out of the stroke.

cue ball more reaction when i drop the elbow but most of the time when i drop elbow im not cueing straight specially in a power shot,when its still a pretty straight cueing but i cannot make any reaction on the cue ball i think im pecking ant stop at the chest,i mean limited follow through,in elbow up my follow through 3inches after the shot,in elbow drop its the cue tip 6 to 7 inches long after i strike the cue ball

[swestlife]

You can "lock" your shoulder into position which stops the elbow dropping if you really want . It's hard to explain but you can activate the muscle responsible for moving the shoulder blades which stops your shoulder moving , which in turn stops the elbow dropping

Joe Davis explains it in his book to imagine you are drawing back the bow string in archery and you are holiding the string back .

what do you mean lock the shoulder,,i try to lock my shoulder tight to my armpit but when i watch my self in the mirror the elbow is not vertical its come inside to my body angle to the left as im right handed

[tomwalker147]

If your elbow drops don't worry, Ronnie does it and so do I (only on certain shots).

[Slasher]

cue ball more reaction when i drop the elbow but most of the time when i drop elbow im not cueing straight specially in a power shot,when its still a pretty straight cueing but i cannot make any reaction on the cue ball i think im pecking ant stop at the chest,i mean limited follow through,in elbow up my follow through 3inches after the shot,in elbow drop its the cue tip 6 to 7 inches long after i strike the cue ball

The follow through has zero effect on CB reaction, the cue ball is long gone after 1/1000 of a second, if you are getting different reactions it is because of tension in the arm and not striking the CB where you intended.
Easily proven by backing off from the CB or just watch Francisco Bustamante, he addresses the CB way way back yet gets just as much action as anybody in the game.
The follow through/ more reaction is a myth.
https://youtu.be/5wKzmeWsqZE

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[Big Splash!]

Not strictly true. The follow through comes from cueing smoothly and smoothly makes a better hit. So folk aren't aiming to follow through smoothly, following through is a result of constant acceleration. If you jab and smash the CB, you'll impart stun, even if you hit it low or high. It's not just the quantity of force that matters but what type of force and how it is delivered. I've seen stacks of people who can pump the bottom of the ball but still complain about lack of spin. That's down to the lump hammer approach.

[Slasher]

Not strictly true. The follow through comes from cueing smoothly and smoothly makes a better hit. So folk aren't aiming to follow through smoothly, following through is a result of constant acceleration. If you jab and smash the CB, you'll impart stun, even if you hit it low or high. It's not just the quantity of force that matters but what type of force and how it is delivered. I've seen stacks of people who can pump the bottom of the ball but still complain about lack of spin. That's down to the lump hammer approach.

No it's down to cue speed and point of contact. So long as people keep regurgitating old wives tales without supporting evidence progress will be slow, I think I am having a deja vu moment here so this is my last post in this thread.

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

Not strictly true. The follow through comes from cueing smoothly and smoothly makes a better hit. So folk aren't aiming to follow through smoothly, following through is a result of constant acceleration. If you jab and smash the CB, you'll impart stun, even if you hit it low or high. It's not just the quantity of force that matters but what type of force and how it is delivered. I've seen stacks of people who can pump the bottom of the ball but still complain about lack of spin. That's down to the lump hammer approach.

Constant acceleration is also a myth.