Shot Line vs Aiming Line

[jdub]

First off, I apologize if this has been discussed. I know there's plenty of topics on aiming, but I couldn't find one for my specific question.

I've heard people say shot line and aiming line. Are these two terms synonymous with one another, or are they different? If it's the latter, then what is the specific difference and how is each one used when setting up the stance? Any videos or diagrams would be great.

I know this is really basic stuff, but it's just something I never actually took the time to learn. I started off playing by feel. Went to using various aiming systems. Felt like I was wasting my time, and went back to playing by feel and using contact point on the object ball.

[Catch 22]

They are the same .

The shot line (or line of the shot ) is the imaginary line the cue ball must travel along to hit the object ball in the correct place to make the pot . Aiming the shot Is just finding this line correctly

[jdub]

They are the same .

The shot line (or line of the shot ) is the imaginary line the cue ball must travel along to hit the object ball in the correct place to make the pot . Aiming the shot Is just finding this line correctly

Okay thanks. For some reason my stance feels different on certain shots depending on whether I'm cutting the ball to the left or to the right. Like on thin cuts to the right, I always feel as though I'm cueing across the ball.

[Big Splash!]

Okay thanks. For some reason my stance feels different on certain shots depending on whether I'm cutting the ball to the left or to the right. Like on thin cuts to the right, I always feel as though I'm cueing across the ball.

This method can be ok, Bingham cued across the ball for a decade or more but struggled to pot balls down the right of the table. In this case the shot line and cueing line differ a tiny margin. But he eradicated this error late in his career and won the worlds. If you are right eye dominant and right handed, the feeling you have is quite natural, you will always be more comfortable potting to the left. Potting to the right will feel more like a slice shot.

[inevermissblue]

Start over by only sighting the CB. As this is the ball we can physically control on every shot. With this method. There is no line per say. Its more about the extreme edges of the CB which gives you the required direction in which the CB needs to travel to complete the shot. Works ok for me...even with limited time on the table.
It works like the old playstation games with the shot assist. Lol. As long as you are in the correct position at the rear pause, then you can't go wrong. If you do, then any problems can easily be identified. The physical side.

[vmax4steve]

Okay thanks. For some reason my stance feels different on certain shots depending on whether I'm cutting the ball to the left or to the right. Like on thin cuts to the right, I always feel as though I'm cueing across the ball.

Make sure when lowering yourself down into your stance that you take a second to look at the cue ball and address the tip to where you want to strike it.
Don't get all the way down before you do this, and don't expect the tip of your cue to address the cue ball where you need to strike it by looking at the contact point of the object ball all the way down. If you're a tiny bit out you won't notice and you'll find yourself cueing across the ball on the strike.

Oh! and the line of aim is as wide as the cue ball, don't aim the tip of your cue, aim the cue ball at the contact point of the object ball, your brain will work it out for you, you only need to look.

[inevermissblue]

Oh! and the line of aim is as wide as the cue ball, don't aim the tip of your cue, aim the cue ball at the contact point of the object ball, your brain will work it out for you, you only need to look.

This is spot on!

[Big Splash!]

This is spot on!

You done a vid of the Judd Trump black special or you chicken?

[jdub]

So I know it doesn't matter exactly how the back foot is angled in relation to the shot line, but when you look down at your back foot, should your head be directly over it? I only ask because when I look down, my back foot is to the right of my head.

Now I can get my head to be directly over my back foot, but it feels like the majority of my weight is on my right leg, and my left leg is just off to the side. Does this make sense?

[jamesg19851]

So I know it doesn't matter exactly how the back foot is angled in relation to the shot line, but when you look down at your back foot, should your head be directly over it? I only ask because when I look down, my back foot is to the right of my head.

Now I can get my head to be directly over my back foot, but it feels like the majority of my weight is on my right leg, and my left leg is just off to the side. Does this make sense?

For improving your stance I'd recommend going to a coach. I went to a coach at the SWSA in Gloucester and he helped a lot and now I experience less neck pain.

Are you standing with your feet too narrow?

[jdub]

For improving your stance I'd recommend going to a coach. I went to a coach at the SWSA in Gloucester and he helped a lot and now I experience less neck pain.

Are you standing with your feet too narrow?

I'd say they are shoulder width, maybe a little wider.

The problem with a coach (for snooker fundamentals) is finding one here in the states.

[inevermissblue]

You done a vid of the Judd Trump black special or you chicken?

What's the JT black special??? I've not played much at all lately. Just started a new job which means I'll be playing even less. Fortunate to say the least! As I have been having a nightmare in these league matches I'm playing in. Soooo many away venues that don't have the first clue about what a 'Match' is! Sick and tired of turning up to places where they either haven't got match balls...or they have them, but they are all mixed up with the 'OLD' polyester club balls! What's wrong with all these people??? I'm beginning to think that the game itself is just too big for them.
My mate played at a place the other day where everything looked to have been improved...new luminaire lighting...decent cloth...new pocket leathers.......match balls...Except the CB which he said, looked to have been swapped with a club CB. Jesus!!!
The best was when I went to a place that had a TC box on the bench we were sitting on, box was open. Which at first led me to believe that there were match balls on. After closer inspection, I noticed that all 15 reds and the baulk colours were still sat in the box except the blue and green. Needless to say, it wasn't an enjoyable experience. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

[Hello, Mr Big Shot]

I'd say they are shoulder width, maybe a little wider.

The problem with a coach (for snooker fundamentals) is finding one here in the states.

Scott Lee (joke).

What about lee brett? He travels, doesnt he? I wouldn't see anyone else.

[Csmith]

I'd say they are shoulder width, maybe a little wider.

The problem with a coach (for snooker fundamentals) is finding one here in the states.

If you have access to wifi, skype and a pool/snooker table in one spot, Nic Barrow advertises remote coaching on his website. I don't know what he charges (in person coaching is pricey), but that might be an option. It's something I've considered myself.


http://www.thesnookergym.com/remote-snooker-training/

[PA1115]

There are 4 lines on every shot:

* shot line, the line down the center of the CB down through the center of the ghost ball
* contact point of CB to contact point of the OB (CP2CP) line
* stick line, the line wherever the stick is pointing
* sight line, the line down where one's vision center is looking

The only time these 4 lines can all be the same is on a straight-in shot (assuming a center ball hit on the CB).

Add in any degree of cut angle and now the shot line and CP2CP lines are 2 different lines. Add side spin on any cut shot and you'll now have 3 different lines (3rd line is the stick line)........question is, which one do you sight down on these various situations?

On cut shots, if you "aim (sight line) for the OB contact point", you should undercut the shot (hit it fat)......you're sighting across the shot line, not down it.

I could go further but I'll just leave it here.