Stun / Stun Screw / Stun Follow

[Nic Barrow]

Ever wondered how to play the different type of stun shots that you hear mentioned on the TV?
I hope this new video will help some of you - and am happy to respond to comment posted here if I can
https://youtu.be/TvjJub5rAjY
Nic

[itsnoteasy]

I have been trying to teach myself that stun run, boy it's a difficult shot to master, it's not like a stop shot where you can be a bit low and at worst you may come back an inch or so but normally still have a shot. Over any type of distance ,say beyond six or seven feet, if it's not cued bang on it just releases and you are nowhere, or just too low and it stops which can be just as bad, I'm getting there though but I'm still not confident on how much release and run I will get.
I have found unlike a stop shot from distance where you can cue lower and softer , I can't do this with stun run, it's very very small fraction I find , could you do a video of how to control the stun run over distance please Nic, thanks.

[DeanH]

Last week I was playing a friend and wanted stun/run, the black was sitting over the pocket just waiting, I played a red bridging slightly over the small pack, got the pot, got the run through. I could have been short or long but (you guessed it) I went right behind a loose red, snookering myself on the easy black - argh!

[jonny66]

Stun run is my favourite shot, when it goes right it feels great, you grab so much of the cueball. I think it's table specific though, a stun run on one table could be a stop shot on another table.

[itsnoteasy]

I'm trying to perfect it after a couple of weeks ago another break went belly up with a kick on a pocket weight run through , I'm fed up getting them and the vast majority are on the same shot, now I'm mucking up breaks because I can't play the stun run right happy days.

[ace man]

Impossible to play higher level snooker without mastering stun run through. No wonder pro players avoid slow roll like the plague.
I wish I started using it sooner.

[Nic Barrow]

Just hit the same speed as on the video but a little lower. Depending on the distance to the ball, speed of cloth, humidity, cleanliness of balls, you will quickly learn how to stun run through / stun / stun screw - as long as you hit the height and speed you intend on the cue ball to get maximum learning from each shot or 'experiment'

[Nic Barrow]

Very valid point - which is why snooker is a little like golf in having to adapt to every condition. A pro should be able to 'learn' any table within half a frame.
However, only play stun when you absolutely have to (like side) because plain follow through is much easier to control as you can only make one mistake - speed - with stun you can make a mistake with speed AND cue ball height.

[Nic Barrow]

However, only play stun when you absolutely have to (like side) because plain follow through is much easier to control as you can only make one mistake - speed - with stun you can make a mistake with speed AND cue ball height.

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[Nic Barrow]

I have been trying to teach myself that stun run, boy it's a difficult shot to master, it's not like a stop shot where you can be a bit low and at worst you may come back an inch or so but normally still have a shot. Over any type of distance ,say beyond six or seven feet, if it's not cued bang on it just releases and you are nowhere, or just too low and it stops which can be just as bad, I'm getting there though but I'm still not confident on how much release and run I will get.
I have found unlike a stop shot from distance where you can cue lower and softer , I can't do this with stun run, it's very very small fraction I find , could you do a video of how to control the stun run over distance please Nic, thanks.

Just hit the same speed as on the video but a little lower. Depending on the distance to the ball, speed of cloth, humidity, cleanliness of balls, you will quickly learn how to stun run through / stun / stun screw - as long as you hit the height and speed you intend on the cue ball to get maximum learning from each shot or 'experiment'

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[Nic Barrow]

Stun run is my favourite shot, when it goes right it feels great, you grab so much of the cueball. I think it's table specific though, a stun run on one table could be a stop shot on another table.

Very valid point - which is why snooker is a little like golf in having to adapt to every condition. A pro should be able to 'learn' any table within half a frame.
However, only play stun when you absolutely have to (like side) because plain follow through is much easier to control as you can only make one mistake - speed - with stun you can make a mistake with speed AND cue ball height.

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[ace man]

Here's a lovely video of stun run through shots played by top professionals. Usual frame situations that appear very often:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI72mHeXiUo

How many of you would attempt some of those shots using just plain ball follow and not stun run through? Use drag shot even?
I think one of the problems in not using stun run through when it is clearly the right shot, is that not only you will not get good position, but also should you miss you will very likely leave the object ball near the pocket.

[pottr]

I tend to play whichever positional shot allows me to hit the ball consistently... To try and recreate the rhythm going through the ball during a break.

Like anything with snooker though, it helps to have the process explained and to understand it... But even with that knowledge, it's still gonna take countless hours of practice to learn how to use the shot properly.

Simply saying "do this" isn't anywhere near half the battle.

[Nic Barrow]

To stun run through, or not to stun run through?!

Here's a lovely video of stun run through shots played by top professionals. Usual frame situations that appear very often:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI72mHeXiUo

How many of you would attempt some of those shots using just plain ball follow and not stun run through? Use drag shot even?
I think one of the problems in not using stun run through when it is clearly the right shot, is that not only you will not get good position, but also should you miss you will very likely leave the object ball near the pocket.

In fact default should be rolling the ball in as you can only make a mistake on speed - with stun follow you can make a mistake with speed AND height.
Stun run through should only start to be used when rolling the ball may give a chance of the ball rolling off straight - and even then at the minimum possible extra speed to keep the pockets playing as big as possible.
Stun run through for the sake of it is one of the biggest causes of losing position for players in the 40-70 highest break bracket

[Nic Barrow]

I tend to play whichever positional shot allows me to hit the ball consistently... To try and recreate the rhythm going through the ball during a break.

Like anything with snooker though, it helps to have the process explained and to understand it... But even with that knowledge, it's still gonna take countless hours of practice to learn how to use the shot properly.

Simply saying "do this" isn't anywhere near half the battle.

Correct - and getting completely fluent with 'the language' of positional play - and all its percentages and factors to consider - is vital to be able to keep the mind on the pots and in a state of flow.