Allowance on cuts

[crossFade]

Hey guys,

I was wondering at what angle of a cut you will allow a consideration on your aiming. Since the cue ball does not hit the object ball with its center. And is this something that comes with experience?

Cheers

[pottr]

Hit the part of the OB that makes it go into the pocket.

Nothing more to worry about.

If you miss it thin, hit it thicker and vice versa.

Obvious answer really

[crossFade]

I implied it in my question already, your answer suggests that it comes with experience. No need to get cocky...

[Csmith]

I implied it in my question already, your answer suggests that it comes with experience. No need to get cocky...

You are correct, aiming and sighting are an experience thing. It really comes down to a bit of trial and error until ultimately it just comes naturally. I find some players will overthink aiming and continue to do so for a long time. It seems tricky to get figured out since at first you are not executing consistently as you can aim in the same place on three tries and get three different results sometimes.

I'd suggest practicing certain angles you aren't comfortable with at short distances and start moving further back. At short distances your cueing errors won't be as large a factor.

Your primary concern should be putting your cue on the line of aim and pushing through in a straight line. Everything else kind of falls into place once you can do that.

[pottr]

Yep, it's never aiming... it's always down to cueing.

The angle of the pot is irrelevant is you're not pushing the cue through straight... As soon as you can learn that, you can fine tune all the shots in the book through practice...

Problem is, it's not as easy to do as it is to fathom.

P.S I am cocky but I'm also correct.

Love and kisses, pottr x

[itsnoteasy]

You are correct, aiming and sighting are an experience thing. It really comes down to a bit of trial and error until ultimately it just comes naturally. I find some players will overthink aiming and continue to do so for a long time. It seems tricky to get figured out since at first you are not executing consistently as you can aim in the same place on three tries and get three different results sometimes.

I'd suggest practicing certain angles you aren't comfortable with at short distances and start moving further back. At short distances your cueing errors won't be as large a factor.

Your primary concern should be putting your cue on the line of aim and pushing through in a straight line. Everything else kind of falls into place once you can do that.

I like this, they kind of go together, no point being bang on line and cueing round a corner and no point cueing straight as an arrow but putting your cue on the wrong line.

[crossFade]

You are correct, aiming and sighting are an experience thing. It really comes down to a bit of trial and error until ultimately it just comes naturally. I find some players will overthink aiming and continue to do so for a long time. It seems tricky to get figured out since at first you are not executing consistently as you can aim in the same place on three tries and get three different results sometimes.

I'd suggest practicing certain angles you aren't comfortable with at short distances and start moving further back. At short distances your cueing errors won't be as large a factor.

Your primary concern should be putting your cue on the line of aim and pushing through in a straight line. Everything else kind of falls into place once you can do that.

Thanks for your suggestion. It sounds very reasonable. The thing is that I actually feel more comfortable on shots where CB and OB are not so close together. If they are really close together I miss alot of shots. Somehow I find it easier to aim if they are seperated a little more. Also particularly hard I find shots where you have to cut alot, e.g. potting black from its line on the table or underneath it.

And you are right, I do tend to overthink shots I'm not comfortable with. It is a war over and over again between my logical mind and the smaller intuitional part of it, I will give it a try and let the latter win in my next session :P

[cantpotforshíte]

I like this, they kind of go together, no point being bang on line and cueing round a corner and no point cueing straight as an arrow but putting your cue on the wrong line.

If I'm not lined up properly, subconsciously I know that I'm not and it's then almost impossible to cue straight. The tendency is then to cue across the ball and subconsciously try and pot the ball as I cue, often missing the pot on the other side. I think this happens with a lot of players. They then don't get the feedback that they need to get lined up properly the next time.

[luke-h]

i agree with pottr if you can consistently push the cue through straight and hit centre of white then you'll be able to learn all pots with practice, there is no special secret just lots and lots of repetition.

[crossFade]

If I'm not lined up properly, subconsciously I know that I'm not and it's then almost impossible to cue straight. The tendency is then to cue across the ball and subconsciously try and pot the ball as I cue, often missing the pot on the other side. I think this happens with a lot of players. They then don't get the feedback that they need to get lined up properly the next time.

I do actually experience this on some of my shots. Feeling that I moved the cue in a weird way towards one side. I will pay more attention to this and try to get some knowledge out of it, depending on what side I tended to. Thanks man

[pottr]

If I'm not lined up properly, subconsciously I know that I'm not and it's then almost impossible to cue straight. The tendency is then to cue across the ball and subconsciously try and pot the ball as I cue, often missing the pot on the other side. I think this happens with a lot of players. They then don't get the feedback that they need to get lined up properly the next time.

Stand up and reset the shot.

It's not difficult to work out to fix this but I guarantee absolutely every player in the world is guilty of this on more than the odd occasion.

[Ramon]

your ability to see the angles is important .sum players are abit more talented and can see the angles much faster.
the trouble with choosing the wrong angle and get down on the shot is that Most players are too lazy to stand up an try again. this turns out in making small adjustments and most of the time , cueing acrros the ball .
A combination of the right angle and cueing stright is a necessary step to stay on and potting sum balls .

otherwise, you're gonna have to put on your white gloves again ( which is the worst part of the game ).

[tomwalker147]

Yeah that's spot on, get up and reset yourself. Not doing this cost me a century yesterday it's frustrating but simple to fix in theory.

[pottr]

Yeah that's spot on, get up and reset yourself. Not doing this cost me a century yesterday it's frustrating but simple to fix in theory.

Never nice to miss on 26, Tom x

[tomwalker147]

Never nice to miss on 26, Tom x

I wouldn't know mate! It was actually 71, missed the second last red, knew I was aiming at the near jaw too but still played the shot...pure laziness!
Played the Golden cue comp at Bilston!