Best way to learn position?

[lozb]

Hi,

I am a pretty good potter but position severely lets me down. How can I get better at position and learn the angles the white will take better?

I understand follow, stun, screw and can play them all well but problem is knowing how much stun or screw to put on a shot to finish where I want to.

I watched a nic barrow video where he says on each shot think where will the white go with follow, where will it go with screw and where will it go with stun, I understand the general direction it will take but how can I accurately know where the white goes with screw or follow on a shot? For instance on a quarter ball black I might be a couple of inches out of where I think the white will hit the cushion or where I imagine the follow will hit and then I end up nowhere near where I wanted to be by the end of the shot because of that.

I understand its all practise but if I could look at a shot, mark where follow would take the white and where screw would take the white I think I would be much closer to accurately getting to where I want. It makes sense to me but if I get the follow or screw position wrong then whatever shot I choose to play I end up not being right, does that make sense?

Around the black spot I rarely miss the pot unless I am not concentrating the thing that ends my break is ending up on the cushion, or the white flying up the table because I was on the wrong line, very frustrating

[Cue crafty]

Check out the practice routines on shockerz website. All good. Only hours and hours of practice will get there!


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[travisbickle]

Check out the practice routines on shockerz website. All good. Only hours and hours of practice will get there!


https://www.snookercrazy.com

By hour an hours of practice, crafty means thousands of hours lol

[throtts]

By hour an hours of practice, crafty means thousands of hours lol

Absolutely. hrs and hrs and hrs.

Work on blacks off the spot to master that rebound off the black / top cushion.. Art of break building..:snooker:.

[throtts]

Also, a 3/4 high black off the spot should be hit with top ( a tip worth above centre ) to keep the cue ball in and around the reds,,,,, and not near a side cushion. Punch that in with a tip worth below centre and you will see the cue ball go towards the side cush.

[Csmith]

Routines like the line up, T drill, Cross drill and others that I've found on PJ Nolan's site has made a big difference for me. I used to think they were silly and would only practice by playing selfie frames or just spreading the reds around. But doing so tended to engrain bad habits more than anything since different situations only came up every now and then. The drills on the other hand force me to practice different positions and learn how to handle situations that you may not be comfortable with.

These days I'm trying to mix it up a bit and change routines each day. Though I always warm up for the first 10 minutes with the line up.

[Cue crafty]

An hrs & hrs and hours an hrs ......: )

Ain't no shortcuts.

[narl]

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[lozb]

I understand it is all practise but is there a way to estimate where each shot the white will go, for instance I heard stun is 90 degrees to the angle or something? And then follow and screw are about 30 degrees either side? Not sure of the exact rules, is it 90 degrees on the line of the white?

[Cue crafty]

I understand it is all practise but is there a way to estimate where each shot the white will go, for instance I heard stun is 90 degrees to the angle or something? And then follow and screw are about 30 degrees either side? Not sure of the exact rules, is it 90 degrees on the line of the white?

I don't think this is something you can apply rigid maths too. It's about "feel" and that is an individual thing which even the top pro's get wrong on occasion. Practice being low on the blue and use stun to try and navigate through the gap between yellow and brown and back through that same gap. The Angeles are rarely the same in play only similar hence why again practicing different angles will help your instincts to grow and become more dependable.

The more you practise the routines (like Ray Reardons snooker clinic) the more your feel for this will improve. You can't calibrate it.

[PatBlock]

I understand it is all practise but is there a way to estimate where each shot the white will go, for instance I heard stun is 90 degrees to the angle or something? And then follow and screw are about 30 degrees either side? Not sure of the exact rules, is it 90 degrees on the line of the white?

It's really not that simple, so the best way to learn is to experiment and practice. If you're not confident enough with your cue action to know you're going to get consistent results, I'd suggest using a computer game, just to give you an idea where the cueball will end up if you use (X) amount of top/bottom spin on a (Y) angle shot at (Z) pace. It's not substitute for the real thing, but it could help you to understand cueball control.

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[sharkster63]

I don't think this is something you can apply rigid maths too. It's about "feel" and that is an individual thing which even the top pro's get wrong on occasion. Practice being low on the blue and use stun to try and navigate through the gap between yellow and brown and back through that same gap. The Angeles are rarely the same in play only similar hence why again practicing different angles will help your instincts to grow and become more dependable.

The more you practise the routines (like Ray Reardons snooker clinic) the more your feel for this will improve. You can't calibrate it.

I think this is very important drill. Missing the Colours, getting on the pink or Blue after potting the blue is always a challenge and one that pays when you can get it right.

[throtts]

Earlier, I just had the pink and black on the table, just going black pink black pink until I eff up. It very good because your obviously using the middles bags too.

Another one I did was just the black on its spot and one red, again potting them till you eff up.

Oh yea, and the cueing test one, yellow to black then black back to yellow again and so on.

[Cue crafty]

Earlier, I just had the pink and black on the table, just going black pink black pink until I eff up. It very good because your obviously using the middles bags too.

Another one I did was just the black on its spot and one red, again potting them till you eff up.

Oh yea, and the cueing test one, yellow to black then black back to yellow again and so on.

Like that mate, I need a few new things to practice myself as slight boredom ( big emphasis on slight, any table time is good) is the root of concentration lapse, which leads to frustration etc blah.

Have you got your own table btw?

[throtts]

Yep, I have a Star...