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    Quote Originally Posted by Particle Physics View Post
    They even use side when potting balls directly into a pocket when the white won't even touch a cushion after contact with the object ball. I find it bizarre.
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    I use this only on one occasion when i have a shot that is just off straight, i mean if you bend down and look through cueball to OB ball in a straight line it will probably hit the jaw.

    i use possible 1/4 to 1/2 a tip depending how far away this because if i tried to aim for the spot to pot i will over compensate and miss the shot, this is because the different between it being dead straight and not is so minimal i find it hard to judge, now i know a lot will say practice and practice and you will eventually get it , believe me i have and i will miss more than i pot.

    however using a little bit of side and aiming for centre throws the cueball just enough to pot. it works for me and i am much more successful at this type of pot now, so i will continue as long as it works.

    i do believe some pros use this method on long pots just off straight too just to get the angle, so i guess its a common thing. i wouldn't use it on other shots and rarely use side at all even for position coming off cussions, i am not comfortable yet and don't have enough knowledge to impliment it to good use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perpetualboredom View Post
    Not quite the same, but I was watching a local billiards pro a few weeks back noticed he played almost all cannons with check side. He said afterward that billiard players tend to play this way.. reason being a slight amount of unintentional running side throws the cue ball where as check doesn't. He made 114 in a 1 frame game of 200 up so I'm thinking it works!
    I assume by "throw" he meant the effect off the cushion, and not the throw effect on the white after contact when using side - otherwise his statement is madness

    As running side widens the angle, and there are no additional forces opposing it, a little unintentional running side will almost always have a visible effect. Check side on the other hand is opposed by the friction on the cushion and the travel of the ball, so more check side is required to get the same effect as the running side shot, therefore a little check might have no visible effect.

    Good tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrage View Post
    I assume by "throw" he meant the effect off the cushion, and not the throw effect on the white after contact when using side - otherwise his statement is madness

    As running side widens the angle, and there are no additional forces opposing it, a little unintentional running side will almost always have a visible effect. Check side on the other hand is opposed by the friction on the cushion and the travel of the ball, so more check side is required to get the same effect as the running side shot, therefore a little check might have no visible effect.

    Good tip
    Mate, there are people playing side to deliberately throw the white off and back onto the line of the shot. They're playing a swerve shot to pot a ball that isn't snookered and they're not doing it to get position off a cushion using side. Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alabadi View Post
    I use this only on one occasion when i have a shot that is just off straight, i mean if you bend down and look through cueball to OB ball in a straight line it will probably hit the jaw.

    i use possible 1/4 to 1/2 a tip depending how far away this because if i tried to aim for the spot to pot i will over compensate and miss the shot, this is because the different between it being dead straight and not is so minimal i find it hard to judge, now i know a lot will say practice and practice and you will eventually get it , believe me i have and i will miss more than i pot.

    however using a little bit of side and aiming for centre throws the cueball just enough to pot. it works for me and i am much more successful at this type of pot now, so i will continue as long as it works.

    i do believe some pros use this method on long pots just off straight too just to get the angle, so i guess its a common thing. i wouldn't use it on other shots and rarely use side at all even for position coming off cussions, i am not comfortable yet and don't have enough knowledge to impliment it to good use.

    Alabbadi
    I know this shot very well and practice it and come across it very often. When I am on the black and it is just off straight ( pink end ) I hammer them in at pace with tip just below center striking ( stun ) to gain position ( for example ) on an available red to carry on the break. That shot really tells you how your cueing and how good your technique is, my percentage is very high and get I pissed if I miss it. Of course you can power screw back off the black if no ball is in the way but the power stun is a lovely shot to execute. The just off straight pink to the middle pocks are harder than the just off blacks, imo.

    On both shots, if your not accurate on my super tight Star then the ball not dropping..
    Last edited by throtts; 18th July 2012 at 05:34 PM.

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    Remove all balls from the table and try to hit just the cue ball with the same speed but perpendicular to the cushion ... You could keep it on the green spot and try to hit it perpendicular to the yellow side cushion, and come back exactly behind the green spot on the green side cushion .... Then keep it on the brown spot, and hit it on the black top cushion exactly behind the black spot. See if you can touch the cue ball on the bottom cushion exactly behind the brown spot .. This helped me make my shots straight sometime back. Hope it helps you as well !
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