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  • #16
    Just seen Andy's video, again, he surprised me on how he does something, shows what I know!

    I guess the only question I would have is how the playability of the cue would change when the ebony is added as the balance point would change.

    As the balance point would change dependent on the density of the would used to splice, is the balance point that important when doing it this way?
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    • #17
      What do the cue makers do that don't
      Have a table to test cue like Andy done ? Do they just take a stab in dark were it goes
      Ton Praram cue series 1 ash shaft Burwood and ebony splices with maple vaneres 58.9.5.29.4.18oz 18 BP

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      • #18
        I've seen a few eurekas weighted this way,and as a few have said it can cause splices to lift,think andy does this way because of how far the weight needed to be up the shaft,it saves drilling far up the shaft from bottom with a 16_18 in long drill bit.

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        • #19
          Nice vid, please pass on our thanks to Andy for taking the time and effort to make them

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          • #20
            How much for the shoes? got plenty of his cues.

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            • #21
              Ad like to get one of him
              Ton Praram cue series 1 ash shaft Burwood and ebony splices with maple vaneres 58.9.5.29.4.18oz 18 BP

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              • #22
                in the vid Andy has weighed the shaft, added some lead weights while he tried a few shots, found the 'right' weight for that particular shaft then drilled the shaft and expoxy'd in the lead.

                How does he know what weight the butt splicings will add?

                Probably a daft question I know....
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                • #23
                  Originally Posted by bolton-cueman View Post
                  in the vid Andy has weighed the shaft, added some lead weights while he tried a few shots, found the 'right' weight for that particular shaft then drilled the shaft and expoxy'd in the lead.

                  How does he know what weight the butt splicings will add?

                  Probably a daft question I know....
                  Just probably a rough idea going from experience.

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                  • #24
                    Originally Posted by bolton-cueman View Post
                    in the vid Andy has weighed the shaft, added some lead weights while he tried a few shots, found the 'right' weight for that particular shaft then drilled the shaft and expoxy'd in the lead.

                    How does he know what weight the butt splicings will add?

                    Probably a daft question I know....
                    Probably because he knows a combination of :-

                    1 / that the amount of wood removed will roughly equal about the amount of wood added.

                    2 / the differences in weight of the same volume/size of wood, for ash and ebony for example.

                    3 / from experience, the position shift required for the drilled weights to give the same feel as the original wrapped weights.

                    I think. ?

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                    • #25
                      Originally Posted by jim evans View Post
                      I've seen a few eurekas weighted this way,and as a few have said it can cause splices to lift,think andy does this way because of how far the weight needed to be up the shaft,it saves drilling far up the shaft from bottom with a 16_18 in long drill bit.
                      Hi Jim

                      Say you put two cues together using the two different methods and put the weights at the same point in the shaft. If both have the core of the cue drilled which they both seem to have (Andy's method being slightly thicker width ways), both will expand and contract at similar rates of the same amount of lead used so why would Andy's method split the cue and not the conventional way?

                      Just a thought......Is it because it is in direct contact with the splice and the other method would still sit under a bit of the ash under the splice?
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                      • #26
                        Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post

                        Just a thought......Is it because it is in direct contact with the splice and the other method would still sit under a bit of the ash under the splice?
                        Pretty sure its this, the weight drilled up through the bottom wouldn't be in contact with the ebony, it would be embedded in the ash.

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                        • #27
                          Originally Posted by narl View Post
                          Pretty sure its this, the weight drilled up through the bottom wouldn't be in contact with the ebony, it would be embedded in the ash.
                          I wonder if Andy does all his cues like this and whether he has had any issue with splices lifting?
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                          • #28
                            Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post
                            I wonder if Andy does all his cues like this and whether he has had any issue with splices lifting?
                            I believe he does it this way and a few others too.

                            I don't think he has noticed lifting splices being more of a problem this way than any other way. .

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                            • #29
                              New Andy Hunter cue-making video

                              that's because its thirty odd years down the line

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                              • #30
                                Originally Posted by golferson123 View Post
                                that's because its thirty odd years down the line
                                what is thirty odd years down the line ?

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