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First off please let me start by saying i am not about to point fingers and name people publicly, but after after reading many coments hidden in different threads, it is clear that there are some cuemakers and forum members here
that feel a little anoyed by the fact that some cuemakers badge there cues as "handmade" when in fact they are imported "thai cues" !!!
This thread is NOT aimed at exposing these people or in anyway an attempt to s#it stir, it is just my own opinions on how i feel about it, and how i think it afects myself and a few other guys in this funny trade
Point 1 - i feel that people are getting frustrated about the waiting times from some of the genuine guys, "good things come to those that wait" and "you cant rush a good thing" both spring to mind !!!
Point 2 - - it is only 3 years since i decided to make cues (a massive gamble and cost may i add) and at the time there was two guys who i was aware of that do this, something that did not put me off !, but in the past 3 years since my decision to do this there are now 5 guys who i know to be at it, with a dozen or so forum members each year asking for information or tips as it is something they want to try, which gets me thinking how this market will be affected in future years ?
Point 3 - it is impossible for me to market my own "customised cues" without pi#sing others off! for example they are verry good cues as anyone who has seen greenbaize cues will know! also the fact that there are two former world champions who are knocking in there centuries weekly with the same thai cues! and as stated by other makers they have all the best ash !
Point 4 - with quality matirials getting increasingly harder to source i belive that thai cues are only going to get more and more popular here in the uk and abroad !
Point 5 - pricing ! with the power of the internet we see pictures week in week out of buitiful cues with some great shafts, something that is very difficult to source here in the uk, to the honest cuemaker this is something that carries a sercharge (and rightfuly so) but to others it is an opertunity to have red - green - blackplates ect !
and add to the cost of an already disshonest cue !
Point 7 - if you think that this does not affect the price structure of genuine handmade cues your wrong ! in fact i will never be happy making a fully handmade cue with all the labour and hassle of visiting timber yards ect at a lesser price than a "thai convertor" ! and i know of other makers that feel the same
Point 6 - THIS WILL NEVER CHANGE !!!!!!!! as what starts off as a passion or hobby always ends up a bussiness !
Finally - i started this thread stating that im not trying to be a ******, and would like to end it with the fact that ive got nothing but respect for each and every cuemaker out there, some more than others just like yourselves !
i just hope that one day something hapens to change the way cues are badged, so that the prices reflect the way things are done !
that feel a little anoyed by the fact that some cuemakers badge there cues as "handmade" when in fact they are imported "thai cues" !!!
This thread is NOT aimed at exposing these people or in anyway an attempt to s#it stir, it is just my own opinions on how i feel about it, and how i think it afects myself and a few other guys in this funny trade
Point 1 - i feel that people are getting frustrated about the waiting times from some of the genuine guys, "good things come to those that wait" and "you cant rush a good thing" both spring to mind !!!
Point 2 - - it is only 3 years since i decided to make cues (a massive gamble and cost may i add) and at the time there was two guys who i was aware of that do this, something that did not put me off !, but in the past 3 years since my decision to do this there are now 5 guys who i know to be at it, with a dozen or so forum members each year asking for information or tips as it is something they want to try, which gets me thinking how this market will be affected in future years ?
Point 3 - it is impossible for me to market my own "customised cues" without pi#sing others off! for example they are verry good cues as anyone who has seen greenbaize cues will know! also the fact that there are two former world champions who are knocking in there centuries weekly with the same thai cues! and as stated by other makers they have all the best ash !
Point 4 - with quality matirials getting increasingly harder to source i belive that thai cues are only going to get more and more popular here in the uk and abroad !
Point 5 - pricing ! with the power of the internet we see pictures week in week out of buitiful cues with some great shafts, something that is very difficult to source here in the uk, to the honest cuemaker this is something that carries a sercharge (and rightfuly so) but to others it is an opertunity to have red - green - blackplates ect !
and add to the cost of an already disshonest cue !
Point 7 - if you think that this does not affect the price structure of genuine handmade cues your wrong ! in fact i will never be happy making a fully handmade cue with all the labour and hassle of visiting timber yards ect at a lesser price than a "thai convertor" ! and i know of other makers that feel the same
Point 6 - THIS WILL NEVER CHANGE !!!!!!!! as what starts off as a passion or hobby always ends up a bussiness !
Finally - i started this thread stating that im not trying to be a ******, and would like to end it with the fact that ive got nothing but respect for each and every cuemaker out there, some more than others just like yourselves !
i just hope that one day something hapens to change the way cues are badged, so that the prices reflect the way things are done !
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