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    Quote Originally Posted by DandyA View Post
    isn't the height of the elbow fixed at address position since your forearm should be vertical? surely the only way to raise it is to lift the butt of the cue which is definitely not recommended ...
    Dats wot i think as well, the butt have to be lifted if the elbow were to raise,
    All these things are really confusing and it is really bothering me

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    I think the only possible answer if your elbow is even close to not being visible from the front is that you are holding the cue WAY too far back. You should post a pic or video as Im having a hard time imagining this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theguywithaplan View Post
    I think the only possible answer if your elbow is even close to not being visible from the front is that you are holding the cue WAY too far back. You should post a pic or video as Im having a hard time imagining this.
    i checked my arm in the mirror, if i raise it naturally, i could see merely the elbow and a bit of my arm, while i could see the elbow and most of my back arm if i were to raise it as high as possible.

    but i suppose the first scenario is good enough?

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    davidwu:

    Do a search through any snooker pictures you can find and look for pictures of pros or top amateurs in the address position and shot from straight on. You will see the top of their elbow past their heads and normally about 6inches of the upper arm.

    Good technique is that the grip arm elbow is up as high as it can comfortably go but NOT by pulling the cue into the chest but rather getting the chest down to the cue (although there is obviously a little pulling up of the butt as you shouldn't let it sag)

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    I have recently realised I have this problem with my technique!

    My shoulders look very square on if you look at me from straight on. But if I pull my right shoulder slightly back, I get the correct setup in the address position.

    My question is: I'm a regular 50-60 break player, very often have 70-80 breaks, so what are the advantages of having my right shoulder slightly pulled back like this? Or better still, what are the disadvantages of not having it pulled back?

    Hope I've been clear with my explanation and questions. Cheers

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    My answer would be the grip shoulder should not be visible behind the head when in the address position. This does NOT come from twisting the back though which (depending on your age) as you could do yourself some harm by over-twisting the spine.

    Where it comes from is the hips and the bent left leg. You should bend your forward leg enough so the hips are at an angle and this angle or close to it probably can be easily done with the shoulders although in thinking about it I think the shoulder will twist a bit more to get the right shoulder up high and behind the head, so you will be twisting the spin a touch.

    But the real 'secret' of this (look at head-on address shots of the pros and you'll see their grip shoulder is well hidden in most cases) is to bend that forward leg as much as you comfortably can as this has the added bonus of getting your chest down to the cue and also give more stability and all that is besides getting the grip shoulder into alignment.

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    tedisbill. There are professionals who play like you but far more and the top ones play with near perfect alignment. I believe if the elbow is in line with the cue and head then it is easier to cue straight. If the elbow does not line up directly then the body is always fighting a battle to keep everything online. This is because with this setup the elbow and grip have a natural tendency to pull the cue offline. hope that answers your question.
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    Cheers Gavin. Yes that makes sense.

    I'm definitely gonna stick with this new setup now. Can't hurt to have everything in line properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidwu View Post
    i checked my arm in the mirror, if i raise it naturally, i could see merely the elbow and a bit of my arm, while i could see the elbow and most of my back arm if i were to raise it as high as possible.

    but i suppose the first scenario is good enough?
    Before someone does themselves an injury, if you are checking yourself front on in a mirror, you won't see much, if any of your arm and elbow, it's just because of the position of your eyes, as they have to look up, and your head is in the way. That's if you are close to the mirror say within three feet, I only know this as I check myself in one from that distance.
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