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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidd View Post
    Did you ask for this? please check with your local cable operator LOL
    no!
    i know its gonna be a repeat, but i don't mind. hope i wont need subtitles this time
    Last edited by j6uk; 20th February 2014 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j6uk View Post
    no!
    i know its gonna be a repeat, but i don't mind. hope i wont need subtitles this time
    Hahahahhahaaaaa.... you DEVIL
    Good one this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidd View Post
    I have been tinkering and making adjustments to my grip on and off for quite some time to an extent that I had started to think I was way beyond target and was wasting time and energy. But something happened. Grip related or maybe something else, but well, something did happen.

    I read Steve Davis's article on the grip where he stated that if you are struggling with putting unwanted side on the white and missing easy pots, maybe the back fingers are the problem makers and as they come back on the cue during delivery they mess up with the path of the cue, so you might want to experiment and try the Alex higgins grip. I had that in mind and thought of giving it a try. Secondly, he advocated that since the actual muscle used to drive the cue is the forearm rather than the grip hand, why to use the grip hand? Use the forearm to drive the cue with little or no pressure from the grip hand in a way that the grip only is used to have the cue rest in it while the arm does the action.

    And then I watched Dell hill's coaching clips on youtube before going to the club in which he explained the drive and also two interesting things:

    1. The back of the palm should be touching the cue at address.

    I went straight to the club and held the cue in the second finger however what I added with it was to have my palm touching the cue at address which when I did my cue went to the last finger pads of the back fingers and my grip sort of cocked out from the back a bit- do not know this for sure but it sure felt like that... and something miraculous happened. Something that I had not experienced before. I started driving the cue effortlessly and my potting accuracy went to a record high for me in years. I was playing and I did not feel as if I was hitting the CB at all and it just felt like hitting thin air or something made of light plastic and also then my cue (19 oz) felt in my hands as if it has lost weight like it felt really light... My control, potting, positioning everything went up high like never ever before. I cant forget that feeling.

    The next day I went in determined to keep that on and play just like that no matter what and... I played miserably.. missing everything on the table easy pots long pots everything... I kept playing like that and kept thinking where I was wrong... Yes one thing was for sure ... that feel... that feel was not there anymore... the feel that made me think I was hitting a light object and not the CB...

    that was really a big turn down and my mates who had sen me yesterday could not believe it at all... I still have to have a grip that I can learn to keep constantly on every day that I play. I still do not know what is it that plays with me n me mind. But there is something... my guess... 85% its the grip.
    wow i hope you have fixed ur game by now
    this is exactly what i experienced recently
    i watched my address position and i saw the palm isnt touching the cue at all
    i watched few pros videos and i can see them touching the palm of thier hand on cueball

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    Tried a new grip today , at least for me . Held the cue with middle two fingers 3rd & 4th in the address position and initiated delivery with the third finger and on follow thru , brought the last finger in a wrap around finish . Seems to work well for me at this early stage and will play a little longer to understand the nuances . Reading thru the forum , I see that the initial grip is similar to what O'Sullivan employs , but he transfers the cue to the upper part of the thumb/ forefinger at end of his delivery pause and back to the last three did its at end of stroke , keeping his forefinger off .

    I remember an article in which Steve Davis tried the Highins grip , to good effect . Could somebody please expand on the same , I cannot find the mentioned article .

    In the opening post mentions : 1. The back of the palm should be touching the cue at address. .... Is this to cock the wrist in an attempt to lock It ?

    Still trying to find my way , this here forum is a great source of learning .

    More cue power to you all .

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    Sorry for the typos , can't seem to find the edit button .

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickDraw View Post
    Sorry for the typos , can't seem to find the edit button .
    you may need over 10 posts to get the edit function
    Up the TSF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
    This should tell you immediately that the improvement was nothing to do with your new grip, that what was happening was having only one thought in your mind, your new grip, was making you stop thinking about everything like you usually do, and doing the basics consistantly and therefore potting well.
    You went in the next day with a little anxiety in your mind as to whether the new grip would work again, putting pressure on yourself and when you missed that first easy pot then all the old thoughts returned.

    I stated this a couple of years ago that constant tinkering will produce this effect now and again, playing just as well or badly with different techniques will introduce anxiety and therefore negativity into your thought process.
    When a new technique works for just a short time all that's happening is what Terry states as having one swing thought in your mind to fix on that negates all the other thoughts that can invade your mind and gives you a better chance of simply playing on a subconscious level.

    100% is the mind Sidd, you can do it as you have proved many times with many differing techniques. Your new cue should be the catalyst for relaxing and simply playing with no reason at all to tinker any longer.
    Find the line of aim, put the cue on it, look at the object ball at the moment of the strike to keep the cue on line, those are the basics and must be adhered to.
    Rehashing an old thread but bang on comments really agree and can relate to my own play.

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    Day two and the new grip still works , so may be suiting me . Watched ROS again and the transfer from the two finger grip to the thumb and forefinger at the end of the swing m is only for power shots and when on a longer back stoke , possibly to keep the cue parallel , transitioning back to the two finger grip on delivery not so easy .

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    Hi All,

    I was going to post a thread on this but have found some of the answers that I was after in your responses. Thanks!

    Recently I have been recording some of my practice sessions to see where my faults may be. I have noticed that on some shots (not all), I too twist my wrist on delivery which is something I never noticed myself doing.

    I tried to upload a video for opinions / critique but it wouldn't load via my mobile - Maybe because it exceeded the allowance as it is 7 minutes (line-up)? I then tried to do it via my PC, but Apple videos uploaded to Microsoft computers seem to port across upside down!... Not very helpful.

    I don't suppose anyone knows what the data / time limit would be on a video made from an iphone 7?

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    It might be easier to upload to youtube and share the link

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