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    Well he may never have played it, so until he comes back on and says so it's hard to comment.
    If he's in UK i doubt he has played ??

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    i have tried to keep my shoulder as still as i can while feathering but the cue just has that little sideways motion..one thing i notice when i do this like in this vid,after 3-4 feathers,my wrist starts to turn outwards to my right,don't know if that's an indication of what is going wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by timcunnell View Post
    Welcome to the forum!
    I definitely agree with you about snooker improving your pool - this has been the same for me. I was predominantly a pool player until 4-5 years ago and have been taking snooker more seriously since - and as a result my pool game has improved no end. Although I have to say I'd rather be good at snooker now! The difference between pool and snooker is largely technique. Yes, obviously the tables and balls are very different etc, but I mean you can be very, very good at pool with just an okay technique. Indeed there are lots of pool players at national and even international level who have (at least in snooker terms) a fairly dodgy technique. This is because you can get away with it in pool, but not snooker!
    From your video (at least from that angle) it looks like you've got a fairly decent setup. It would be good to see you play an actual shot I guess. But what I would be interested in is what your right elbow is doing. If you watch it seems that your right elbow is moving from side to side slightly while you draw the cue back and push through. This is where your problem is. I am just not sure why from this angle.
    Remember that it is okay (good, in fact) for your elbow to drop as you cue through. Up and down movement of the elbow is fine, but sideways is bad.
    Things to check for possible cause would be whether your right forearm is hanging down perfectly vertical. It should be, but if its at an angle then you're in trouble. If its not that then check your grip. You just need to hold the cue quite securely (but not tight) between your thumb as first finger. The other fingers should be there for support, and they should release as you take the cue back, then re-grip the cue as you push through. You shouldn't be holding on to the cue with all fingers during the backswing.
    If you try any of this and you're still struggling, maybe upload another video from another angle. From behind and from the side would be good. Like I say, your setup looks pretty good from that angle so you're doing okay!
    yes i have seen some players with bad techniques who get away with it in pool and run racks..but i can't get away with it lol..i will try the grip you suggested although i've tried opening/closing my grip hand and it never works out well

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
    Although you're not really looking at anything, it seems that you sight with your right eye, cue slightly to the right of your chin. I would try squaring up your stance, left foot parallel with the right, not in front of it, which would naturally bring your cue arm more directly in line behind your head.
    This might stop the side to side movement. but remember to look at the object ball on the delivery stroke as your hand will follow your eye, and no amount of fiddling with your stance will improve your action if you don't do this, as even those with dead straight cueing miss sitters when they take their eye off the pot.
    no i am even-sighted,it may seem that way because of my upper-arm side movement..actually in this vid i'm using a square stance but at the time i was favoring my bent (left) foot in weight distribution & twisting at the hips.i now favor my back foot in weight & try to use my chest as a guide at all times but i still have that upper arm movement

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace man View Post
    I really don't understand what air stroking is supposed to show? Let's have some numbers.
    What's you current high break at snooker? Since you say you have played pool for years, what's you high score at 14.1 straight pool?
    i have never played straight pool & rarely play snooker..i'm not here to show off,i came here to get help.if you don't have anything worthy to contribute in this thread,then please leave..

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    Quote Originally Posted by timcunnell View Post
    Welcome to the forum!
    I definitely agree with you about snooker improving your pool - this has been the same for me. I was predominantly a pool player until 4-5 years ago and have been taking snooker more seriously since - and as a result my pool game has improved no end. Although I have to say I'd rather be good at snooker now! The difference between pool and snooker is largely technique. Yes, obviously the tables and balls are very different etc, but I mean you can be very, very good at pool with just an okay technique. Indeed there are lots of pool players at national and even international level who have (at least in snooker terms) a fairly dodgy technique. This is because you can get away with it in pool, but not snooker!
    From your video (at least from that angle) it looks like you've got a fairly decent setup. It would be good to see you play an actual shot I guess. But what I would be interested in is what your right elbow is doing. If you watch it seems that your right elbow is moving from side to side slightly while you draw the cue back and push through. This is where your problem is. I am just not sure why from this angle.
    Remember that it is okay (good, in fact) for your elbow to drop as you cue through. Up and down movement of the elbow is fine, but sideways is bad.
    Things to check for possible cause would be whether your right forearm is hanging down perfectly vertical. It should be, but if its at an angle then you're in trouble. If its not that then check your grip. You just need to hold the cue quite securely (but not tight) between your thumb as first finger. The other fingers should be there for support, and they should release as you take the cue back, then re-grip the cue as you push through. You shouldn't be holding on to the cue with all fingers during the backswing.
    If you try any of this and you're still struggling, maybe upload another video from another angle. From behind and from the side would be good. Like I say, your setup looks pretty good from that angle so you're doing okay!
    i have 2 more videos one where i run a few random balls and one where it shows me from side-on.here are the links: and .like i said before i don't play like this anymore,i now favor my back foot in weight distribution,i have the cue contact my chest at all times & i have my right toe pointed almost directly to the line of aim but i still can't fix the problem.after giving it a lot of thought,maybe i have this problem because i dislocated my right shoulder 3 years ago (it took about 3 hours to get to the hospital and put my shoulder back in its socket),so my shoulder is still a bit unstable to this day & maybe that's why it moves when im feathering but i could be wrong it's just my theory..anyway thanks for the reply any more help would be appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by kflps View Post
    i have never played straight pool & rarely play snooker..i'm not here to show off,i came here to get help.if you don't have anything worthy to contribute in this thread,then please leave..
    Sorry did not mean to wind you up, that wasn't my intention. But seriously, what could one conclude from cueing without any balls on table?
    If you play snooker only rarely and mostly pool, you don't need to be obsessive about technique. Yes, you do need ok technique for pool too, but that game really isn't about great cueing nearly as much as snooker.
    In order to test your technique, if you really want that, you need to play far more snooker and less pool. Trust me, I speak from experience since I have played plenty of pool in the past. If you play on such more forgiving equipment all the time it is very difficult to even notice when you're cueing poorly because one can get away with a lot of stuff. Bad habits keep popping up like there's no tommorow.
    Sure, there are demanding shots at pool, yes, but snooker tests your cueing on majority of shots.
    My worthy contribution to this thread is this: try to switch to snooker fully if at all possible and stick with it.
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    apologies from my part as well,i got irritated quickly..i've posted 2 more videos if you've noticed.no,i don't see how switching to snooker will do anything if i don't find the root of the problem causing my upper-arm sideways movement
    Last edited by kflps; 14th June 2015 at 04:00 AM.

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    I am no way an expert but just something I noticed.
    You have a long bridge hand... a lot of cue length from your hand to the actual tip.
    Sorry if that doesnt help... just throwing ideas in.
    Good luck.

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