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    Quote Originally Posted by inevermissblue View Post
    Peoples approach can differ greatly in terms of how they approach the table...at what point they fix on the shot line...which part they focus on...what they switch to and where...none of this can be assisted by some gizmo some bloke knocks out in a workshop or factory! I sometimes wonder if this Forum is also a portal to an alternate universe (the come down version).
    I agree that the game is all about where your visual attention is directed to and at what time. This is the only way of getting your eyes in the right place (and I don't mean one on either side of your nose) when you are feathering and when you release the cue.

    And if your eyes are not in the right place, then the wrong part of the brain takes over and tries to 'grab the steering wheel' as it were. This results in the physical cueing errors that everyone is familiar with (snatching, steering, quitting on the shot etc etc).

    But while good eye placement is key, actually knowing where your vision centre is (ie which eye is dominant and by how much) is totally useless. Two reasons: first you should never be trying to consciously control where your eyes are in relation to the cue (or shot line?); this is quite the wrong control mechanism to employ. Secondly, within almost all the threads on eye dominance is a hidden assumption that a person's eye dominance is fixed. This is quite wrong - it can shift as objects move across the visual field.

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    Some folks pick things up more instinctively than others, while some require a bit of guidance along the way. Whatever works for you. The fact is, most high end performers at any sport aren't thinking at all when they execute. How we all get to that level, given the chance to practise the required hours of course, will naturally vary between individuals. I believe the key to that is mindful practise rather than gadgets. I suspect a lot of so-called 'practise' time is actually very unstructured and therefore relatively low value. And whatever gadget you buy, there are no short cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siz View Post
    I agree that the game is all about where your visual attention is directed to and at what time. This is the only way of getting your eyes in the right place (and I don't mean one on either side of your nose) when you are feathering and when you release the cue.

    And if your eyes are not in the right place, then the wrong part of the brain takes over and tries to 'grab the steering wheel' as it were. This results in the physical cueing errors that everyone is familiar with (snatching, steering, quitting on the shot etc etc).

    But while good eye placement is key, actually knowing where your vision centre is (ie which eye is dominant and by how much) is totally useless. Two reasons: first you should never be trying to consciously control where your eyes are in relation to the cue (or shot line?); this is quite the wrong control mechanism to employ. Secondly, within almost all the threads on eye dominance is a hidden assumption that a person's eye dominance is fixed. This is quite wrong - it can shift as objects move across the visual field.
    Then why do all the top players always have the cue in the same spot on their chin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdub View Post
    Then why do all the top players always have the cue in the same spot on their chin?
    Because they have grooved their set-up over the years and through tons of practice. I doubt very much their set-up has anything to do with their dominant eye but rather it's the set-up they've found which gives them more accuracy and feels comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdub View Post
    Then why do all the top players always have the cue in the same spot on their chin?
    Not sure I understand your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdub View Post
    Then why do all the top players always have the cue in the same spot on their chin?
    Look at Terry's avatar and draw a vertical line directly up from the cue to a point between his eyes. That's his vision centre, and it looks to me to disect just inside of his left eye, with his right eye outside the line.
    His head is not absolutely square on, you can see his left ear but not his right, so it's this head position that gets the cue on the line of aim as seen by his vision centre.

    Now do the same for all the top players and you'll see how they differ even though they too have the cue on their chin.

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    Hi all,

    I'm new to the group so apologies if this has been discussed before.

    Hello,

    I've tried doing the eye dominance test by making a hole with my hands and trying to focus on a point on the wall, then closing each eye to see with which one I can still see the point on the wall. The problem is that I see two of everything transparently that I am not focusing on, eg. when I hold up my index fingers, one in front of the other, whichever I am not focusing on becomes double and transparent.

    Does this make my vision ambiocular and is there anything I can do to correct it?

    Many thanks for any info.

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    It's not important at all to your snooker... Just get the cue out, hit some balls around and let your brain sort it out for you.

    There is no spoon

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    place a piece a chalk on the cushion, step back and point your finger at it with both eyes open. now close one eye at a time, the one where your finger is still pointing at the chalk is your dominant eye.

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    Thanks, but I think it's a wee bit more complicated than that. I just spoke to an online optometrist and she said I have physiological diplopia. It doesn't affect my daily life but it does affect my snooker.

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