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    And you think that's hard - watch this other stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by Csmith View Post
    I like this advice too. I was actually relaying this to someone a few weeks back who was mentioning that he struggled with sighting due to poor eye sight. I told him that if you can simply recognize the different angles and focusing on puting your cue on the aiming line, as opposed to picking a spot on the ball, you don't need sharp eyesight to pot well.
    Yes he explains it very well. He has a few videos online and they are all good - this bit of advice is very good indeed I think - better than all the ghost ball back of the ball contact point stuff I heard others talk about on here which is more guesswork. Using this other method to visualise the line is good especially if you understand what he is on about properly and you combine it with your automatic knowledge of half ball quarter ball three quarter ball angles etc and you know where to hit on the white THEN also play the line then I think it helps improve the potting percentages greatly - it becomes a quicker way to sight/visualise the pot and in my opinion takes away the guesswork somewhat..

    What I mean is if you just focus on a point on the object ball facing you the you are hoping to hit correctly if you are aware of the line the ball will travel to the pocket as you get down then you pick out the potting angle and contact point better when you get down into the shot. Aiming on your way in down into the shot and on the walki in or stood behind the shot up - rather than just getting down and guessing on the front - facing you of a object ball - on its own as many am players do. I suggest many do not visualise the line the ball takes on the opposite side of the ball to the pocket properly. This is something Barry stark is explaining and not many coaches explain this properly.

    Each to there own however. I like it. some players - a lot - of club players probably do it without realising - I know did - but trouble was I also used to switch to other things too making me more inconsistent. I think for me it was important to become aware of this. Understanding this advice helped me greatly.
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    Some great advice here

    Last edited by Byrom; 21st August 2017 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    Hi
    Why are pro players so good and we club players so bad if we have played the game for years?
    Cannot compare guys who have dedicated their entire lives to snooker from a very early age to hobby players who play after their day job.
    There is playing the game and there is living, eating and breathing snooker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    Another example of bad coaching IMO opinion because as there is no physical line he doesn't explain how he sees the line, what he looks at in order to find the line, what he's looking at when taking his stance to put his cue on the line and what he looks at when delivering the cue to keep the cue on the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmax4steve View Post
    Another example of bad coaching IMO opinion because as there is no physical line he doesn't explain how he sees the line, what he looks at in order to find the line, what he's looking at when taking his stance to put his cue on the line and what he looks at when delivering the cue to keep the cue on the line.
    He does explain that the line is the line through the OB ball to the back of the pocket - furthest part away through the centre of the OB to the pocket - the line is imaginary .... a track the ball must travel down to make the pot - if you are a player that only sights at the front part of the OB ball and are not fully aware of the line first then you might not get it - you can still pot balls of course picking a point on there are player who hit on the white plain ball and players who hit all over the white - this is not wrong if it suits them - what they all have in common - the good ones is - that no matter where they hit on the white they are good at sending the OB down the line

    ob or bob or ghost ball or fractional aiming of course are used by a few but this is not enough in itself - separate this from the line Barry is on about here and the game with just this is more guesswork -
    Personally I got what he means and agree with him and I think he is a very good coach and very knowledgeable.

    There are many debates about sighting on here and I suppose we all have our ways - I have heard a few - I don't disagree with someone who sights the cue ball for example and there are players who hit plain ball more on the white and those that cue to the left or right of centre or all over on the white - if it works it works - sighting and aiming is a natural thing - this however is not about that exactly this is about visualising the shot fully and most really good players are more aware of the line of the shot here and how to make the ball travel down it to the pocket - it is something that only becomes better with experience..

    if you start off in your pre shot routine and you are perhaps only looking at the pocket or glancing at it then only at specific point on the OB or trying to pick out a angle then your game is in trouble as you incidentally cannot see this small point on a thin cut or quarter ball can you? It also takes a lot of concentration and that in itself is not enough I feel.

    Players I feel get more consistency if they instead play the line - find the line or become more aware of it first before doing this or perhaps just play the line like he says -

    For me if you do this first - imagine the line - the angle you need to hit on the white pops up more naturally and I think this method helps players greatly as if you visualise this first you can get down and into the shot correctly more often and quicker, knowing its in before you hit it and am sure is the method a lot of the better players use or are perhaps more naturally aware of after potting those million balls.

    I agree with him on this video entirely. Its what a lot of players do I think but not heard it explained before perhaps because its a natural concept for a lot of them.

    What I give this particular coach credit for is the fact he explains perfectly what the line of the shot is - the line from the OB to the pocket - others think or talk about the line being the line from the white to the OB. Here is the confusion.
    Another example is when he explains what timing is - Other coaches don't talk about timing - many might feel its how you feather etc. He is correct when he says its how long you keep in contact with the cue ball - how you deliver it through the white - rather like a cricket player hitting a six and following through with the shot and hanging on to the shot.

    Therefore in my humble opinion I disagree with you on this point v-max - I have not seen all his videos but I happen to think that he is a very good snooker coach indeed from what I have heard so far.
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    Look at what Ronnie says at 240 on the last vid ....

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    Sorry I don't know how to post links using my Chromebook but if you search for "Willie Thorne makes 147" on Youtube there's a clip of him talking you through it, learnt a lot from that guy! If someone can post the link for it (think it's in two parts) I'd be grateful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looter View Post
    Sorry I don't know how to post links using my Chromebook but if you search for "Willie Thorne makes 147" on Youtube there's a clip of him talking you through it, learnt a lot from that guy! If someone can post the link for it (think it's in two parts) I'd be grateful.
    https://youtu.be/a3pTXsz8wyE
    https://youtu.be/bBc0iCmiBlw
    This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
    https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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    C an this thread be stickied? I always thought there should be a good tips for beginners thread that's easy to find on here.

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