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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny66 View Post
    angles and distances are always going to be slightly different in a match anyway.
    I think that was the point really.

    If for arguments say you are on the 10:30 line and hit plain ball then it shouldn't matter how far away, a little like billiards and in offs and half ball angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmax View Post

    I will certainly give this exercise a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post
    I think that was the point really.

    If for arguments say you are on the 10:30 line and hit plain ball then it shouldn't matter how far away, a little like billiards and in offs and half ball angles.
    What's the 10:30 line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny66 View Post
    What's the 10:30 line?
    The half ball line, same as a clockface at 10:30.

    In other words if the angle between cueball, object ball and pocket looks like 10:30 then it should be half ball as a guide.

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    Default Natural Potting Angles

    Wouldn't 10.30 (45 degree angle) be nearer quarter ball? Half ball is nearer 30 degrees (one hand on 6 one hand on 11)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post
    Wouldn't 10.30 (45 degree angle) be nearer quarter ball? Half ball is nearer 30 degrees (one hand on 6 one hand on 11)?
    I would have thought the following:

    Full ball 12:00
    3/4 ball 11:15
    1/2 ball 10:30
    1/4 ball 9:45

    O ball 9:00


    My point was just the half ball.


    In degrees:
    If you hit it:

    Full in the face (12:00 o clock) - 360
    Skim/miss (9:00 o clock) - 270

    Half ball must be between the miss and the full in the face so that's why 10:30 or 315 degrees.

    A little over complicated as all I'm saying is if you can see a 10:30 that's a half ball hit (I think). Under pressure on a black it might help! (or not)

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    Unfortunately, that isn't correct. Half ball hit (aiming the centre of the cueball to the edge) is approximately 30. Quarter is a few degrees over 45 and 3/4 a couple of degrees under 15. I won't go into detail with why, this is why google exists, but the error you are making is presuming that the amount you adjust your aim moves the impact point between CB and OB the same amount. This isn't the case, because the balls are spheres not flat planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post
    Unfortunately, that isn't correct. Half ball hit (aiming the centre of the cueball to the edge) is approximately 30. Quarter is a few degrees over 45 and 3/4 a couple of degrees under 15. I won't go into detail with why, this is why google exists, but the error you are making is presuming that the amount you adjust your aim moves the impact point between CB and OB the same amount. This isn't the case, because the balls are spheres not flat planes.
    Thanks for that, well I guess this is the point of the post and why I am posing it.

    I will give it some more thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post
    Unfortunately, that isn't correct. Half ball hit (aiming the centre of the cueball to the edge) is approximately 30. Quarter is a few degrees over 45 and 3/4 a couple of degrees under 15. I won't go into detail with why, this is why google exists, but the error you are making is presuming that the amount you adjust your aim moves the impact point between CB and OB the same amount. This isn't the case, because the balls are spheres not flat planes.
    Would you agree that the 10:30 position is a natural half ball pot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shockerz View Post
    Would you agree that the 10:30 position is a natural half ball pot?
    Only when potting to the left !!!

    Don't forget the purpose of the half ball comes from billiards

    Reference point to aim for (edge of OB)

    Throws the cue ball to its widest throw possible for any given stroke - this is the main reason in billiards to know the reliable half-ball throw without using spin - add check side and it more narrower, add running side and it move slightly wider

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