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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek P View Post
    i love the way folk talk about side like it’s some mesmeroising art form when it’s actualt the reasons your missing half the time lol.

    Keep it simple you’ll find Ronnie does when you watch him he’s hitting plain ball middle stun and screw in the balls if you don’t believe buy a ticket to the next event near you and watch him do it
    There is so much more to snooker then hitting the CB in the middle all the time and it isn’t that hard to learn if you put the time and effort in, trust me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisbickle View Post
    There is so much more to snooker then hitting the CB in the middle all the time and it isnít that hard to learn if you put the time and effort in, trust me.
    That same response comes up to me every time and maybe I donít know what Iím talking about I never claimed to be any guru on Snooker but I have had the benefit of some professional coaching both from an ex professional in Scotland and some WPBSA led stuff and this Ďuse side on every shotí thing is the opposite of what is taught in both cases.

    Leonardo Da Vinci said ĎSimplicity is the ultimate form of sophisticationí and in terms of using simple shots to consistently make big breaks in my own humble opinion I believe that line perfectly sums it up.

    So for the tenth time:

    I know how to play with side, I use side, I was coached on various shots where I might find it useful. Iíve had my shot selection adjusted to be told when I should be using it so itís not like thereís only those that rabbit on about the importance of side on the forum that can use it thatís just ridiculous.

    The problem with it is and always will be itís another variable your adding in to the shot that could potentially go wrong I donít understand why anyone would complicate matters like that in a particular type of shot where it serves a purpose yes side is a great tool but itís just a tool itís not the full picture. The main body of the scoring game is made up of little soft stuns and screws around the black spot area which makes things very simple.

    If your the kind of guy who prefers playing high on the black and bouncing off the back rail with a bit of side then yes you may use it little more on that shot I use both obviously but tend to favour the lower position on the black cos then I can make the majority of the break without using a cushion again limiting the variables of what could and does often go wrong.

    I know Iíll be told I donít know how to play and I should learn what side does and train myself to use it at the end of this post cos it happens every single time side is brought up but to save anyone else who is responding repeating the same daft statement back to me I can use it I know what itís for I know how it works my highest break isnít 10 and Iím not plain ball Jim Iím expressing the importance of taking away a variable that could go wrong

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    Not to disappoint you Derek P but I'd certainly suggest your break building might improve by staying high on the black more frequently. Very slightly too low and you're struggling to keep the cueball on the same side of the table as the white, whereas a high cueball and both sides of the table is an easy positional shot and still shouldn't require side either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicman View Post
    Not to disappoint you Derek P but I'd certainly suggest your break building might improve by staying high on the black more frequently. Very slightly too low and you're struggling to keep the cueball on the same side of the table as the white, whereas a high cueball and both sides of the table is an easy positional shot and still shouldn't require side either way.
    Yeah itís prob a bad habit I have of playing low frequently and limiting my options I know top side does give lot more flexibility itís probably just a comfort thing that I go low so Iím not using the cushion but I do work on the zig zag line up which helps develop the shot some days I tend to favour it but mainly positionally I seem to have the weight of landing low from the reds which as you quite rightly said has to be precise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicman View Post
    Not to disappoint you Derek P but I'd certainly suggest your break building might improve by staying high on the black more frequently. Very slightly too low and you're struggling to keep the cueball on the same side of the table as the white, whereas a high cueball and both sides of the table is an easy positional shot and still shouldn't require side either way.
    good advice - bread and butter positional shots off high blacks up and down the centre of the cue ball and also with "TRACES" of side are essential for players to get comfortable with and offer the most important thing in break building OPTIONS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrackers147 View Post
    good advice - bread and butter positional shots off high blacks up and down the centre of the cue ball and also with "TRACES" of side are essential for players to get comfortable with and offer the most important thing in break building OPTIONS!
    Got to agree, when I realised this it helped my game no end. Like most guys I was scared of losing the white off the cushion. I practiced 2 reds below black and tried to finish high on reds and blacks, replacing the red as I'd potted to keep both on table. I aimed for a fake century and it helped my break building in frames, wasn't long then till I got a century in a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markz View Post
    Got to agree, when I realised this it helped my game no end. Like most guys I was scared of losing the white off the cushion. I practiced 2 reds below black and tried to finish high on reds and blacks, replacing the red as I'd potted to keep both on table. I aimed for a fake century and it helped my break building in frames, wasn't long then till I got a century in a game.
    As you will now know nothing to be scared of once you are comfortable with cue ball line on those shots you actually give yourself a large room for error. Also all guys playing for their first or even first few centuries should be forgetting about black off last red and be playing up for blue as this gives you a huge scope of good position to get nicely on the yellow...obviously if you over hit it you have baulk colours or even blue to the bottom to stay perfect on the yellow. The amount of adrenaline rushed final black to yellows I have seen cost players 100s is unreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcrackers147 View Post
    As you will now know nothing to be scared of once you are comfortable with cue ball line on those shots you actually give yourself a large room for error. Also all guys playing for their first or even first few centuries should be forgetting about black off last red and be playing up for blue as this gives you a huge scope of good position to get nicely on the yellow...obviously if you over hit it you have baulk colours or even blue to the bottom to stay perfect on the yellow. The amount of adrenaline rushed final black to yellows I have seen cost players 100s is unreal.
    I always wondered about that too chasing my first ton I would defo favour going for the blue to get up to yellow cos it's 100% less likely to twitch it than the last black even tho it's a shot which isn't too difficult under normal circumstances.

    It's nice to hear so much advice from the 100 break players on this thread and my other one it defo inspires me to keep pushing forward and hopefully break it. Am going to practice some line up tonight with 4 reds below the black and do what markz was saying I normally just play it safe with little stun angles on the black and only time i really work the bounce off the back cushion is when am doing the zig zag line up which i do fair bit but i should think out the box also and incorporate this shot more into my breaks and be more comfortable using it cos i would normally favour low over high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicman View Post
    Not to disappoint you Derek P but I'd certainly suggest your break building might improve by staying high on the black more frequently. Very slightly too low and you're struggling to keep the cueball on the same side of the table as the white, whereas a high cueball and both sides of the table is an easy positional shot and still shouldn't require side either way.
    Can I just say thanks for this bit of advice.

    I set up my solo practice to only clear the line up by being high on the black and red so I was constantly punching off the black cushion up for the reds and vice versa, I very much have seen the benefit of adjusting my shot selection to more consistently play for the high black as you said allowing more options and also bigger margin for error my scoring in games is becoming more consistent thanks to your help on this practice.

    Can always learn more from experienced players thanks again.

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    Not a problem Derek P, good to hear its helped you, and kudos to you for accepting advice and trying to implement it.

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