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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek P View Post
    That’s what I need I can knock in the breaks when I get loads of chances against lesser opposition but it’s intermittent I feel by playing the good players am going to have to find my potting boots faster with little to no chances coming my way.
    One thing that has helped me was just a change in mindset. Instead of hoping for a straight forward, or semi straight forward, chance I began searching for opportunities to turn a possible pot into a more significant contribution. One of my favorite breaks that I've had recently was just a 50 odd, but when I came to the table, all but one red was clustered and the high valued colours were unavailable. The saving grace was I had an angle on the red to go into the cluster. I think a year or so ago I would have potted red, taken a low value colour and then played safe off the cluster. Instead I risked the cannon on the cluster with the intention of glancing down table and was able to create a better opportunity off of that. It also helped that I've been practicing constructing breaks off the baulk colours a lot recently.

    You also made a good observation on these players shot selection and cue ball control. I know for me to make big breaks, I need to make a handful of recovery shots to keep the break going. If I'm not potting well, a possible 50-70 break turns into a 20 break. High level players on the hand tend to keep things pretty tight which seems to be the reason why they can knock in a century and go "Eh, I'm just not playing well today".

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    I think its great that you have the opportunity to play with these great players. I recommend that you go in and practice on your own, practice anything you think you will help beat them. You will have a much better chance to beat them this way. Dont be happy just spotting there balls and watching them play, you will get there with hard work and perseverance. Cheers P.S. dont play them for money... lol
    I try hard, play hard and dont always succeed, at first.!!!!

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    I have never seen with my own eyes anybody make a break of more than 16. I would have to travel at least 6 hours to find a snooker club. I would do anything to meet a more experienced player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelos237 View Post
    I have never seen with my own eyes anybody make a break of more than 16. I would have to travel at least 6 hours to find a snooker club. I would do anything to meet a more experienced player.
    Sounds like with a few weeks practice you'll make one yourself and see that with your own eyes.

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    Thanks for the inspiration haha, the only snooker table I have access to though is the one at my boarding school. I think I could benefit from talking and playing with another player face to face.

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    Playing better players can only be a positive, as long as you take the positives from each session.

    -When I started playing as a kid (probably from the age of 8) I practised with my dad who at that time could make tons. I learnt a lot about my cue action and basic patterns of play.
    -I then practised with players my age and was far better than them, probably didn't learn a lot or improve much during those few years. In fact from age 14-17 my highest break remained at 71 (I'd had 3 of these and kept getting stuck on it!).
    -I then went to uni and practised with some players in Preston who were Q school standard and another who went on to be pro and my game improved, I used to watch them and learn a lot from it.
    - I'd say age 22 to 25 I learnt the most about break building playing the likes of Pottr and Mark White who would just clear from anywhere. Biggest thing I noticed was that in each break there tends to be an opportunity for you to open the whole table up IF (and it's a big IF) you can spot that crucial shot.
    - I'm now a decent match player and make the odd ton myself, not intimidated at all by the so called better players as I know I can mix it with them. I think it's important to know that a frame can be won pretty much by playing the 'correct' shots and not necessarily by blasting your opponents away with huge breaks.

    The point of the above is that my game improved everytime I played with better players. When I didn't it stagnated which was probably at the age where my game really could have gone up a few levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomwalker147 View Post
    Playing better players can only be a positive, as long as you take the positives from each session.

    -When I started playing as a kid (probably from the age of 8) I practised with my dad who at that time could make tons. I learnt a lot about my cue action and basic patterns of play.
    -I then practised with players my age and was far better than them, probably didn't learn a lot or improve much during those few years. In fact from age 14-17 my highest break remained at 71 (I'd had 3 of these and kept getting stuck on it!).
    -I then went to uni and practised with some players in Preston who were Q school standard and another who went on to be pro and my game improved, I used to watch them and learn a lot from it.
    - I'd say age 22 to 25 I learnt the most about break building playing the likes of Pottr and Mark White who would just clear from anywhere. Biggest thing I noticed was that in each break there tends to be an opportunity for you to open the whole table up IF (and it's a big IF) you can spot that crucial shot.
    - I'm now a decent match player and make the odd ton myself, not intimidated at all by the so called better players as I know I can mix it with them. I think it's important to know that a frame can be won pretty much by playing the 'correct' shots and not necessarily by blasting your opponents away with huge breaks.

    The point of the above is that my game improved everytime I played with better players. When I didn't it stagnated which was probably at the age where my game really could have gone up a few levels.
    Thanks for the response mate, I can only learn from the experience and take the positives from it.
    Up till recently I would say my practice partners were heavily weighted to being of lesser standard than me and it's ok but I don't really feel I ever got anything from these practice sessions I would learn more doing solo.

    Now I've got a better mix of 2 or 3 guys higher standard than myself one an ex professional and the other who is high q school standard I feel I'll learn much more now and my game will come on.

    Also have to include the comments on this thread and some other threads from the hundred break players who have taken the time to give advice I've taken that in aswell been really helpful, especially on mindset or shot selection.

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    What I donít get is....

    I have played all the clubs in Bristol and Iíve never, ever seen a player even remotely near 100 standard let alone 147.

    Iíve spent 3 years on and off and was racking up 20+ hours per week at times and Iím still nowhere near 50.

    My playing partner has a load of trophies from when he was a kid so he had early practice, and heís not a 50 breaker either. 42 was his best v me.

    The best Iíve seen is a guy who said he had an 80, once.

    Where are all these insane players? Even on YouTube thereís only a few ameteurs who make 100+.

    I prob on average make a few 10-20s with the occasional 30ish on a good day with easy balls.

    I have beaten a fair few players in these clubs and even the league matches I watch nobody is anywhere near centuries.

    One guy I played made a 50 come to think of it.

    Just curious how this board is chock full of 147ers, where are you at the clubs or are there select clubs with good cloths that bashers like me donít get in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snookclops View Post
    What I donít get is....

    I have played all the clubs in Bristol and Iíve never, ever seen a player even remotely near 100 standard let alone 147.

    Iíve spent 3 years on and off and was racking up 20+ hours per week at times and Iím still nowhere near 50.

    My playing partner has a load of trophies from when he was a kid so he had early practice, and heís not a 50 breaker either. 42 was his best v me.

    The best Iíve seen is a guy who said he had an 80, once.

    Where are all these insane players? Even on YouTube thereís only a few ameteurs who make 100+.

    I prob on average make a few 10-20s with the occasional 30ish on a good day with easy balls.

    I have beaten a fair few players in these clubs and even the league matches I watch nobody is anywhere near centuries.

    One guy I played made a 50 come to think of it.

    Just curious how this board is chock full of 147ers, where are you at the clubs or are there select clubs with good cloths that bashers like me donít get in?
    Did a search for Bristol league snooker, they have a website and high break boards for 2 leagues and cup matches. Plenty of 50 breaks on there, maybe try join some of the clubs the better scorers are playing from.

    http://www.bristolsnookerleague.co.uk/Breaks.htm

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    So making the odd 30 I am good enough to play in a league?

    Note thereís not one century so century + breakers must be much rarer.

    Thanks for the info, I may well join even if I get whooped itís worth the experience playing against good players.

    Incidentally my partner player is a better player and boy has it upped my game.

    Also, Iíve realise how much of this game is psychological. How much pulling off breaks and good shots messes with your opponents confidence. Itís why I think a lot of fans who donít play love Ronnie and a lot of players can appreciate the endurance and match play strength of Selby and (much as I dislike the guy) John Higgins. You can appreciate match play as different thing to break building.

    I guess why even though I see Ronnie as the greatest player, the king is Hendry, he had it all, albeit it left him young m.

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