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    Quote Originally Posted by tomwalker147 View Post
    I've made centuries without using side. You'll be fine without it.
    Ayy that's very reassuring, thanks man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmax View Post
    There are many on this forum who use side and know how to teach it but it always descends into a slanging match about transfered spin to the object ball so I for one no longer wish to go there.
    Seek out the previous threads on the subject and ignore Hello Mr Big Shot's 9 ball pool rants about tip end mass and transfered spin and you'll get the gist of it enough to practise some shots and get used to how your own cue deflects the cue ball when striking off centre. Whether you believe spin transfers or not the aiming has to be compensated for and the outcome is the same so go for it and when in the future you find yourself out of position you can play a side shot and go on to beat your current high break.
    LOL. I'll experiment during practice and see what happens, thanks for the tips (especially about ignoring Hello Mr Big Shot's 9 ball pool rants xD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fkhan View Post
    Try to play without side as much as possible, use it only if necessary.
    I actually do that already, avoid it entirely apart from the unintentional side here and there. Was just wondering if it was something I should know or can go on without. Thanks for the reminders though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by travisbickle View Post
    When practicing experiment as much as possible about what happens to the cue ball & object balls when using side.
    You will be a much better player eventually gaining this knowledge then if you stick to center ball striking imo.
    In match play stick to what you know.
    Hmm interesting point. Nothing wrong with having the knowledge as you said. I'll experiment during practice. Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IPotWhites View Post
    Hmm interesting point. Nothing wrong with having the knowledge as you said. I'll experiment during practice. Cheers!
    Try potting half ball blacks off the spot with just a trace of side and see what happens to the white. By "trace" I mean just a half or full tip width from the centre of the white. Experiment with left and right of centre ball.
    Here's another one which will help you beat your 22 high break.
    https://youtu.be/NjWGPD7ZsnY
    Last edited by Bigmeek; 18th July 2018 at 10:07 AM.

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    It really depends what your goals are with the game and how much time you're going to allocate to snooker.

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    Implementing side into your game will really improve your positional play. Some shots side is essential, such as playing in and out of baulk off the blue when you are the wrong side. However the majority of shots do not require the use of side. It is especially helpful when playing safety shots aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigmeek View Post
    Try potting half ball blacks off the spot with just a trace of side and see what happens to the white. By "trace" I mean just a half or full tip width from the centre of the white.
    With a high break of only 22 then he might, unkowingly, be doing the half tip already and missing a good percentage of shots as a result. If you're going to experiment with side then go the whole hog and and strike the outside edge as much as you can without miscueing and see what happens, then fine tune it towards the centre of the cue ball and see what happens.

    Most of us already play the break off shot with side to go around the angles and back to baulk the other side of the blue so side is not something to be afraid of. In fact it's essential to making good breaks as no one plays perfect position all the time and if you need some running side to make position on the next ball it's just as easy to aim for the near jaw with one tip of side as it is to aim for the middle of the pocket plain ball, then you rely on your cue action and learn your cues deflection of the cue ball. Don't be afraid to aim to miss when using side as that is what you must do to allow for the deflection and swerve of the cue ball, and, if you believe in fairies the transfered spin.
    Damn!!!! I said I wasn't going to go there, that's it for this thread.

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    Thx Vmax, personally I find it extremely difficult to pot anything at all with extreme side lol. After years of playing still can't get my head round it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vmax View Post
    With a high break of only 22 then he might, unkowingly, be doing the half tip already and missing a good percentage of shots as a result. If you're going to experiment with side then go the whole hog and and strike the outside edge as much as you can without miscueing and see what happens, then fine tune it towards the centre of the cue ball and see what happens.

    Most of us already play the break off shot with side to go around the angles and back to baulk the other side of the blue so side is not something to be afraid of. In fact it's essential to making good breaks as no one plays perfect position all the time and if you need some running side to make position on the next ball it's just as easy to aim for the near jaw with one tip of side as it is to aim for the middle of the pocket plain ball, then you rely on your cue action and learn your cues deflection of the cue ball. Don't be afraid to aim to miss when using side as that is what you must do to allow for the deflection and swerve of the cue ball, and, if you believe in fairies the transfered spin.
    Damn!!!! I said I wasn't going to go there, that's it for this thread.
    SIT not SIS, lol.

    I'd go Blue an inch away from spot and CB in line across table then nice gentle CB with loads of helping side, be amazed wen it goes in and repeat with less throw\cut and graduate to blue into the corner from off straight, but use side.

    This can be very gentle and minimal CB throw\deflection of cue. I had a bash with the Peradon Newbury(?) laminated Maple and Walnut to create the visual of an ash, and there was no\minimal throw and this **** was kinda fun, as bod with the new cue used side but was missing loads anticipating throw......

    I am still loathe to use "unhelping side" to make a pots, but it is the same as the running top side of slightly off pots to corner pockets which sends CB.....

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