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  • John Parris Limited Edition 3 3/4 Cue - Advice Needed

    Hi All,

    I've been lurking around for a few weeks now as I decided it was time I picked up a cue again and visited my local hall - I haven't been since my stag night twenty odd years ago, so we can blame the wife.

    A bit of back story.

    I was originally looking at a John Parris as, like most kids growing in the 80s/90s, a JP Ultimate cue was the holy grail - however after reading a lot of the posts on the forum, I became aware of the extremely long wait times and the inflated prices due to demand, including the second hand market. So I decided I would try to contact the cue makers often recommended on the forum (Wooldridge, Stamford, Owen, Osborne, White), but I quickly realised nobody was taking new orders, and there are slim pickings on the second hand market.

    I then decided I would go back to a Parris Cue, I really liked the design on the Limited Edition 3 Cue, but I decided if I was going to order a new cue I may as well go for an Ultimate as it would likely hold its value better and both had a lengthy wait time anyway. However, before biting the bullet I noticed a Limited Edition 3 Cue pop up for sale at a fairly reasonable price, so I bit the bullet. There wasn't much information about the cue other than it was 20-25 years old.

    Anyhow that's how I got here, and now to the point at hand.

    The cue arrived and it is generally in good condition for the age (looks to be a red glue), but has a few little issues and I think it could do with being re-finished. I have added some photos but this is what I would like/ think needs to be sorted out if possible:

    1. New Tip
    2. Clean or replace the ferrule
    3. Fix the two small dents on the back of butt
    4. Remove a sharpie type mark on the Burr Wood
    5. Remove the glue on the top of the shaft
    6. Refinish or oil the cue (the top of the shaft feels a bit rough like it has been sanded a bit when shaping the tip)
    7. Service the joint
    8. Repair/recolour the small bit of missing green veneer

    I am fairly competent and patient and could try the above myself, but I would prefer to pay an expert to do it. I was hoping to take it down to Robert Osborne as I am 5 minutes from his workshop - but he is closed at the moment. The next closest to me is John Parris themselves, but I recall reading a post on here that the finish wasn't as good as others (no idea if that is true or not).

    So please can anybody help offer advice on the following:

    1. Who would you recommend I use to refinish/service the cue? (I am in London, SW17)
    2. Would you recommend refinishing the cue completely and if not what would you recommend?
    3. What costs are likely to be involved?

    Lastly (sorry for the long first post>, I understand the Limited cues use Paragon grade shafts, bearing in mind that the quality of shafts seem to be diminishing year on year due to demand, would there be much difference in a 25 year old JP Paragon Shaft compared to a 2027 Ultimate shaft? Also, how many is Limited - I see no mention of the amount of JP Limited cues will be made for each edition.

    Some pictures available here:

    https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...usp=drive_link


    Thanks for reading and any help will be greatly appreciated.


  • #2
    Robert Osborne would have been my choice but I heard he had retired. Might be wrong. The ferrule is a bit ropey. Would you consider getting a titanium ferrule fitted?
    As you’re in London I think I would go to John Paris. If you want to take the risk of posting off your cue there’s Raymond Cohen of Exquisite Cues in Scotland. Top bloke.
    Is that a bit of uneven splicing you’ve got? Seen that before on Paris cues. Don’t get that with the Thai cues. They’re always perfect.

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    • #3
      Originally Posted by Nifty50 View Post
      Robert Osborne would have been my choice but I heard he had retired. Might be wrong. The ferrule is a bit ropey. Would you consider getting a titanium ferrule fitted?
      As you’re in London I think I would go to John Paris. If you want to take the risk of posting off your cue there’s Raymond Cohen of Exquisite Cues in Scotland. Top bloke.
      Is that a bit of uneven splicing you’ve got? Seen that before on Paris cues. Don’t get that with the Thai cues. They’re always perfect.
      Thanks Nifty50 for taking the time to reply.

      He was my first choice also, but I read something similar on the forum. Yes, I'll probably change the ferrule, although I might clean it up first a I think most of it is glue. I haven't given much thought to brass or titanium yet - is there much benefit to a titanium? I'll probably drop JP a message to see how long the turnaround on it would be and if they think they could resolve everything, and obviously ask how much as I don't want to have to take out a second mortgage. I didn't pay much attention to the splicing or check to see if it is even - presume the best way is just by eye?

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      • #4
        I see Chris Hart on Twitter showing the refurb jobs he has been doing, exactly what you are after. All the results look fantastic.

        I don't know where he is based or how much he charges.
        I can ask him if you wish let me know.
        I would think he is on other platforms but I only do Twitter.
        Up the TSF! :snooker:

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        • #5
          He did one on instagram


          https://www.instagram.com/p/C4FWQdWC...FsNHptNzN5OWR0

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          • #6
            yep, those are his stairs
            Up the TSF! :snooker:

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            • #7
              Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
              I see Chris Hart on Twitter showing the refurb jobs he has been doing, exactly what you are after. All the results look fantastic.

              I don't know where he is based or how much he charges.
              I can ask him if you wish let me know.
              I would think he is on other platforms but I only do Twitter.
              DeanH thanks, that would be great if you wouldn't mind as it is exactly what I am looking for. I also found him on Instagram, so I can try to reach him that way as well.

              Secret_oath that one is literally my cue, at least he's had some good practice 😂

              Thanks to you both!

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              • #8
                If you can through Insta, great I'll leave it to you but please let us know how you get on, and don't forget photos
                Up the TSF! :snooker:

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by DeanH View Post
                  I see Chris Hart on Twitter showing the refurb jobs he has been doing, exactly what you are after. All the results look fantastic.

                  I don't know where he is based or how much he charges.
                  I can ask him if you wish let me know.
                  I would think he is on other platforms but I only do Twitter.
                  he's from leeds/harrogate area. But agree his refurbs are top notch

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