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The table used for Steve Davis's 147 in the 1982 Lada Classic.

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  • The table used for Steve Davis's 147 in the 1982 Lada Classic.

    I was just having a flick around on ebay and came across this

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Steve-Davi...item20f486c654

    I'm not saying that its not the table that was used for his first TV 147, it's just the legs look totally different in the pic below and the colour shade looks to be different, i couldn't find a better pic. Ive watched the break and the table that was used on TV has square legs at the top then the legs looked to be turned lower down.



    Last edited by The Stig; 19th January 2015, 02:06 AM.
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  • #2
    As a general point I would be unwilling to believe any provenance unless it could be proved.
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    • #3
      simple, ask him where it has been/come from - I know where it used to be as I played on it a few times

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      • #4
        it may be the slate and frame but definitely not the cushions , I have just had a look at the video and in those days they did not use steel cushions in the lada classic I can see this in the video , and this table on ebay has no steels on either but
        the cushions on the video has thick bevelled cushion bolt slide on panels without a bottom moulding , these panels had 4 key slots on the rear and have an habit of falling off , so not the cushions I'm afraid but the frame is the same .

        the cushions on ebay have thin slide in ply wood panels these are not on the video table of the 147 break on youtube .

        just had another look and yes the frame on you tube is the round legs , these have a plastic piece on the floor that hides the toe levelling shims and this is just 4 inch plastic pipe sprayed gold

        so I would say the plate is nothing to do with this table for sale on ebay and it is not the table that Steve Davies made his 147 break on .

        this is the leg design on the table as used in the lada classic http://www.bandasnookerandpool.co.uk...s/front750.jpg
        Last edited by Geoff Large; 20th January 2015, 01:54 AM.
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        • #5
          I think unless you could prove provenance by, for example, a serial number, it would not be accepted. Would anybody pay extra for it if it could be proved to be that particular table? I suspect the answer to that is "probably not" although I would be delighted to be proved wrong.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Geoff Large View Post
            it may be the slate and frame but definitely not the cushions , I have just had a look at the video and in those days they did not use steel cushions in the lada classic I can see this in the video , and this table on ebay has no steels on either but
            the cushions on the video has thick bevelled cushion bolt slide on panels without a bottom moulding , these panels had 4 key slots on the rear and have an habit of falling off , so not the cushions I'm afraid but the frame is the same .

            the cushions on ebay have thin slide in ply wood panels these are not on the video table of the 147 break on youtube .

            just had another look and yes the frame on you tube is the round legs , these have a plastic piece on the floor that hides the toe levelling shims and this is just 4 inch plastic pipe sprayed gold

            so I would say the plate is nothing to do with this table for sale on ebay and it is not the table that Steve Davies made his 147 break on .

            this is the leg design on the table as used in the lada classic http://www.bandasnookerandpool.co.uk...s/front750.jpg
            Geoff I am not saying you're wrong but what makes you think that steel block cushions were not used in the Lada Classic?

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            • #7
              Because those cushions in the video have on the top capping frieze a slanted cut backs behind the rubber as it enters the pocket , steels do not have these ,so the table has standard cushions , and I have worked on those type of cushions before , there are a few of these tables in North notts arena in worksop Nottingham .
              I took one out of those tables and transported it to France a few years ago .
              it may surprise you that normal cushioned tables where used on early TV competitions in the late 70s and 80s before they started using steel cushions .
              by mid 1980 steels where the norm .

              look below to compere the two then freeze frame as a ball enters a pocket in the video

              normal cushions with slant in top capping in this riley http://gclbilliards.com/open-up-pock...unger-players/

              steel cushions no slanted cut back in capping on this burroughs and watts set http://gclbilliards.com/replace-stan...-leg-in-derby/
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              • #8
                Geoff that was the original Arisocrat design, if I'm not mistaken. We just scrapped 13 of those!

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                • #9
                  Yes it was the old Aristocrat , I have a few of them on my rounds
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                  • #10
                    Looks the same to me and with the same original cloth.
                    Cuemaxx snooker channel on youtube

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                    • #11
                      The funny part about this table is the White plate on the end of the table which says "This table is serviced under Riley care" then have a look at the state of the thing ..... It's obviously someone with a great sense of humour that's selling it.
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