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Originally Posted by golferson123 View Postin a vain attempt to pour oil on troubled waters can i just say that i have both read many of dr dave's outputs and considered them fairly relevant to american pool BUT they don't convert too well to snooker, now rewind a few years to the 80s when a considerable amount of canadians relocated to england to play snooker i was fortunate to not only play with these players but to be friends with them, they not only brought their equipment with them they also brought their knowledge with them. not just pool but snooker too. it became obvious that the two did not mix re ball reactions or whatever. i don't need to name who these players were but to suffice to say dr dave's input to their success was negligible, the amount of throw on little tables cannot replicate the effect on longer distances on snooker tables, to quote dr dave back hand english or front hand english can be used on say a black of the dot but fails on any other longish shots but that is what snooker is ie longer, but snooker players know that so stop being so patronising we are not as so thick as you think
Tis true throw is lessened on a snooker table, and it is better to stick to the centre axis . But any table, any balls, any cloth, any cue will produce a reaction when side spin is involved - ye cannae change the laws of physics, Jim.
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Originally Posted by jrc750 View PostHow is asking about your highest break a stupid question ?????????????????????????????????????????????/
You're assuming i have a low high break because i understand the physics of the game. How the hell does that work?
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Originally Posted by Tommykiid View PostThats true but i think its hilarious how a lil question about side can spark all this off haha
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Originally Posted by focus View PostI'm a Newbie, this thread is amazing but for all the wrong reasons. The undercurrent is like some nasty law case in court with pub insults thrown in. Doesn't look good at all. Didn't realise I'd entered a warzone. LOL
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I'm a Newbie, this thread is amazing but for all the wrong reasons. The undercurrent is like some nasty law case in court with pub insults thrown in. Doesn't look good at all. Didn't realise I'd entered a warzone. LOL
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Originally Posted by toastandmarmite View PostIf you find my posts tiresome, sir, might I suggest that you simply block them, I'm led to believe such a function exists on these fora.
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in a vain attempt to pour oil on troubled waters can i just say that i have both read many of dr dave's outputs and considered them fairly relevant to american pool BUT they don't convert too well to snooker, now rewind a few years to the 80s when a considerable amount of canadians relocated to england to play snooker i was fortunate to not only play with these players but to be friends with them, they not only brought their equipment with them they also brought their knowledge with them. not just pool but snooker too. it became obvious that the two did not mix re ball reactions or whatever. i don't need to name who these players were but to suffice to say dr dave's input to their success was negligible, the amount of throw on little tables cannot replicate the effect on longer distances on snooker tables, to quote dr dave back hand english or front hand english can be used on say a black of the dot but fails on any other longish shots but that is what snooker is ie longer, but snooker players know that so stop being so patronising we are not as so thick as you think
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Hi itsnotsoeasy,
Thats why I stated a ""subtle"" amount, so your correct.
I mostly play these shots when potting the black when I want to achieve better position on the next red, or to hold for a red. Plus I play it for my green ball ( and yellow ball ) example above. Good to play and practice to find out how you do.
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When I first tried side I thought it was hitting the outside of the cue ball( I don't know if you are the same Tommy) but I learned eventually it's mostly just trace amounts you need half a tip off centre , this obviously makes potting far easier. I'm not saying there aren't times a lot of side is needed but as a rule you normally need far less than you think, as has been said by many just go and practice, the fun is in finding out, but don't think it will take you up a level IMO .
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Originally Posted by golferson123 View Postmr toast and marmite your often pained eloquente replies are wearing a tad thin, the obvious attempts to elevate yourself above others has not gone unnoticed (sir) i think your true colours will soon surface
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Originally Posted by jrc750 View PostWhat is your highest break mr big shot please ??Originally Posted by Hello, Mr Big Shot View PostAsk stupid questions and you'll get stupid answers. Ring any bells?
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Originally Posted by toastandmarmite View PostAd hominem attacks are not only worthless to the original poster, they are wholly unjust in this instance as Mr B provided a link to a wealth of empirical evidence regarding sidespin (courtesy of Dr David Alciatore) along with sage advice on its deployment for both professionals and novices alike.
To dismiss such research out of hand displays a level of chutzpah seldom seen since Lizzie Borden threw herself upon the mercy of the court as an orphan.
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