Natural Potting Angles

[Mark187187]

Natural Potting Angles

Unfortunately, that isn't correct. Half ball hit (aiming the centre of the cueball to the edge) is approximately 30°. Quarter is a few degrees over 45 and 3/4 a couple of degrees under 15. I won't go into detail with why, this is why google exists, but the error you are making is presuming that the amount you adjust your aim moves the impact point between CB and OB the same amount. This isn't the case, because the balls are spheres not flat planes.

[Shockerz]

Wouldn't 10.30 (45 degree angle) be nearer quarter ball? Half ball is nearer 30 degrees (one hand on 6 one hand on 11)?

I would have thought the following:

Full ball 12:00
3/4 ball 11:15
1/2 ball 10:30
1/4 ball 9:45

O ball 9:00


My point was just the half ball.


In degrees:
If you hit it:

Full in the face (12:00 o clock) - 360
Skim/miss (9:00 o clock) - 270

Half ball must be between the miss and the full in the face so that's why 10:30 or 315 degrees.

A little over complicated as all I'm saying is if you can see a 10:30 that's a half ball hit (I think). Under pressure on a black it might help! (or not)

[Mark187187]

Natural Potting Angles

Wouldn't 10.30 (45 degree angle) be nearer quarter ball? Half ball is nearer 30 degrees (one hand on 6 one hand on 11)?

[Shockerz]

What's the 10:30 line?

The half ball line, same as a clockface at 10:30.

In other words if the angle between cueball, object ball and pocket looks like 10:30 then it should be half ball as a guide.

[jonny66]

I think that was the point really.

If for arguments say you are on the 10:30 line and hit plain ball then it shouldn't matter how far away, a little like billiards and in offs and half ball angles.

What's the 10:30 line?

[Shockerz]

I will certainly give this exercise a go.

[Shockerz]

angles and distances are always going to be slightly different in a match anyway.

I think that was the point really.

If for arguments say you are on the 10:30 line and hit plain ball then it shouldn't matter how far away, a little like billiards and in offs and half ball angles.

[jonny66]

Did you think it helped you in any way?

I didn't really use it much, but I'd agree with tmax. The ring of reds will do you just as much good IMO, angles and distances are always going to be slightly different in a match anyway.

[tmax]

Did you think it helped you in any way?

I bought one, tried to use it, but tbh the setup has to be so exact that I found it of little value

But constantly practicing the ring around black, pink and blue as in Davis' book is of great value

Not so you think thick half ball or anything like that - just so you know where the white is going - so when it appears in a game you definitely know, you are no longer hoping

For example that 1/2 ball cut back on the black, hit low with right hand side, will hit the right hand side cushion at the baulk line and come out between the yellow and brown - either for position on yellow or back up the table for another red

[Shockerz]

Nic Barrow's aimframe is all about these potting angles, you could buy one of them and just make a little chalk mark (which is how you're supposed to use it) I would send you the one he gave me but I don't know where it is.

Did you think it helped you in any way?

[jonny66]

Nic Barrow's aimframe is all about these potting angles, you could buy one of them and just make a little chalk mark (which is how you're supposed to use it) I would send you the one he gave me but I don't know where it is.

[Shockerz]

No. I've never even thought about those angles in my life.

Neither had I until someone brought it up the other day which made me think about it whether it had a use or not.

Iv'e never understood this 1/4 ball shot thing (must admit not tried too hard tho) as surely it NEVER happens during a game ?
The cue ball will never be in the exact position you practice the shots so whats the point ???

It was mentioned that if you had a half past 10 angle that you just hit the object ball 1/2 ball. If the angle was slightly off of this then you just adjust a little to suit.

I must admit it came to mind yesterday and I gave it a go and forgot about the pocket and it seemed to crop up a fair bit hence I wondered about the other angles?

It rings a bell from years ago that if you practiced it a lot then in pressure situations they crop up more than you think and can help if practiced.

Just thought I'd bring it up to see!

[tmax]

Just remembered there used to be a good trick for the natural half ball, it was on the englishbilliards.org website - but their site is down at present

It used to be in their beginners section - first exercise

I think it was something like this:

Cue-ball on the yellow spot - object ball just forward of the brown spot, so that the very edge of the ball is just on the bulk-line (when viewed from above)

This gives you a half-ball in-off (losing hazard) into the green pocket

BUT the cue-ball needs to be struck very purely - meaning end-over-end roll, no skidding which produces a stun effect widening the natural half ball angle - for practical purposes this feels much more like a prod rather than a strike on the white

[tmax]

From Joe Davis' book:

Pink on the Pyramid spot and white about 3-4 inches to the right of the yellow spot gives a half ball into the top left hand pocket

But easiest way is to do what is recommended in Steve Davis book (Successful Snooker):



If still unsure then setup a plant to make it obvious about the contact point - although strictly speaking, it is now proven that the plant is not 100% reliable - see Nick Barrow's video

[jrc750]

Iv'e never understood this 1/4 ball shot thing (must admit not tried too hard tho) as surely it NEVER happens during a game ?
The cue ball will never be in the exact position you practice the shots so whats the point ???