International Championship 2015 - Discussion

[mikeyd100]

He may be clever on the table, but certainly not off it!

Indeed mate yes,for all his antics etc it cant be denied that he is an awesome Snooker player - still doing it in present day, great run of form.

[shmeeko69]

How fecked up is that eh, trying to put a bet on against yourself ha, madness !!!

He may be clever on the table, but certainly not off it!

[mikeyd100]

The betting against himself is factual and he openly admitted that which make you think about the NOTW sting?

How fecked up is that eh, trying to put a bet on against yourself ha, madness !!!

[shmeeko69]

Yeah its strange why he would risk it all, greed like you say, mixed with stupidity.

Also seen you mention the betting thing as well, now that was just plain stupid hahahaa

The betting against himself is factual and he openly admitted that which make you think about the NOTW sting?

[mikeyd100]

Yeah its strange why he would risk it all, greed like you say, mixed with stupidity.

Also seen you mention the betting thing as well, now that was just plain stupid hahahaa

[shmeeko69]

As I said, dumb as a box of rocks and greedy with it.

Not a good combination. Certainly not dumb on a snooker table, but seems to be off it.

[ghost121]

The one thing that struck out and he didn't deny was that, he tried to bet against himself in the world finals v Murphy and the girl refused the bet (I think it was Ladbrokes) questioned why he would do that and reported it due to the amount of money on the table. As for the NOTW stuff ............................

As I said, dumb as a box of rocks and greedy with it.

[shmeeko69]

In my opinion Higgins is guilty of stupidity and greed. I do not think he would seek out this kind of thing because I believe he genuinely loves the game. However, once it dropped in his lap thanks to his manager, I think he saw an easy way to make even more money and went along with it. He clearly was not scared or intimidated at any point. Higgins comes across as incredibly dim, and this behaviour goes along with that. My objection is more to the token punishment he received compared with that of someone lower down the rankings. And don't cite the size of the fine. That's chicken feed set against what Higgins is worth. He got off way too lightly.

The one thing that struck out and he didn't deny was that, he tried to bet against himself in the world finals v Murphy and the girl refused the bet (I think it was Ladbrokes) questioned why he would do that and reported it due to the amount of money on the table. As for the NOTW stuff ............................

[shmeeko69]

My opinion was more that they gave Higgins a few drinks, and got him to admit something stupid. Higgins was known to like a drink. I think he did something very stupid, but how much more was there than that?

Wasn't there some rumour that the NOTW tried to refuse handing over the unedited footage of the film, unless Higgins signed to say he wouldn't sue them?

It looked bad at first, and I didn't believe Higgins story about the mafia. That was quite obviously a lie. But to me, I'm not sure how much I trust the other side either.

I've been doing a Google search on that, but I don't see anything indexed about signing documents with NOTW.

[shmeeko69]

Yes indeed they were a bit scummy and underhand, like you said there is evidence of that.
I'm not sure he was naive though, to me he looked very comfortable, even making suggestions of how he could swallow those 300,000 euros haha

Higgins is one of my favourite players and when I saw that video I thought that me finished with him. Once I started thinking about other stuff and the paper in question I thought, well, anything's possible.

The one thing that was a mystery to me is why would he need to risk his career for a couple of hundred thousand when he's made a few million from the game. I could see someone who's struggling doing something like that, but not really a top player unless greed comes in to it?

[ghost121]

In my opinion Higgins is guilty of stupidity and greed. I do not think he would seek out this kind of thing because I believe he genuinely loves the game. However, once it dropped in his lap thanks to his manager, I think he saw an easy way to make even more money and went along with it. He clearly was not scared or intimidated at any point. Higgins comes across as incredibly dim, and this behaviour goes along with that. My objection is more to the token punishment he received compared with that of someone lower down the rankings. And don't cite the size of the fine. That's chicken feed set against what Higgins is worth. He got off way too lightly.

[SnookerFan]

I do remember watching the NOTW world video sting and it didn't look good for Higgins, but the newspaper in question was scummy and accused of all sorts. If you think back to the phone tapping and the Milly Dowler fiasco then, anything's possible. Yes, Higgins was guilty, but probably of naivety more than anything and led on more by his then manager Pat Mooney.

My opinion was more that they gave Higgins a few drinks, and got him to admit something stupid. Higgins was known to like a drink. I think he did something very stupid, but how much more was there than that?

Wasn't there some rumour that the NOTW tried to refuse handing over the unedited footage of the film, unless Higgins signed to say he wouldn't sue them?

It looked bad at first, and I didn't believe Higgins story about the mafia. That was quite obviously a lie. But to me, I'm not sure how much I trust the other side either.

[mikeyd100]

I do remember watching the NOTW world video sting and it didn't look good for Higgins, but the newspaper in question was scummy and accused of all sorts. If you think back to the phone tapping and the Milly Dowler fiasco then, anything's possible. Yes, Higgins was guilty, but probably of naivety more than anything and led on more by his then manager Pat Mooney.

Yes indeed they were a bit scummy and underhand, like you said there is evidence of that.
I'm not sure he was naive though, to me he looked very comfortable, even making suggestions of how he could swallow those 300,000 euros haha

[shmeeko69]

I didnt know that no, however I do feel that JH was guilty and was trying to make some fast money.
Its old news I know mate really and all comes down to personal opinion

I do remember watching the NOTW world video sting and it didn't look good for Higgins, but the newspaper in question was scummy and accused of all sorts. If you think back to the phone tapping and the Milly Dowler fiasco then, anything's possible. Yes, Higgins was guilty, but probably of naivety more than anything and led on more by his then manager Pat Mooney.

[mikeyd100]

You do realise the bloke who "exposed" him is facing a jail term for perverting the course of justice, witness tampering and falsifying evidence?

I didnt know that no, however I do feel that JH was guilty and was trying to make some fast money.
Its old news I know mate really and all comes down to personal opinion