2017 Welsh Open

[JimMalone]

I always maintain it's better to bet on a player you don't like. So if they win then, you're happy with the added money and if they lose then,
you're still happy that they're out. Makes sense really?

As I said this is exactly what I do. But in some cases it still doesn't help as my favorite player winning is much more important to me than win a few euros.
I won something like 70 euros, when Federer beat Nadal in the Australian Open Final this year, but was still inconsolable that Nadal lost.

[shmeeko69]

When I bet I usually bet on the outcome I don't want to happen. Doesn't make me happier though

I always maintain it's better to bet on a player you don't like. So if they win then, you're happy with the added money and if they lose then,
you're still happy that they're out. Makes sense really?

[Rane]

Winner, winner, chicken for dinner. Congratulations to Ballrun.

[JimMalone]

Used to .....but i wanted Fu , Hamilton and then Bingham to win ..........obviously didn't bet on them , as they would have all lost !

When I bet I usually bet on the outcome I don't want to happen. Doesn't make me happier though

[Neil Taperell]

Used to .....but i wanted Fu , Hamilton and then Bingham to win ..........obviously didn't bet on them , as they would have all lost !

[JimMalone]

I don't know if there's anything in this (a bit like a dropped slice of toast always landing butter-side down) but does anyone else get a real sense that the vast majority of times the player you want to win a match/final, doesn't??

It's got me so paranoid now, that I feel it's almost guaranteed 'my' player is going to lose, simply because I want him to win.

It does happen to me quite often, despite I know that is not the case. I then feel that everything is against me. Right now I'm on a horrible streak of cases, that my favorite sportsmen or teams all lose their important matches or teams I don't like win. Welsh Open final anyways wasn't important enough for me to get on this list, though ;-). But with this streak right now I'm already nearly "convinced" a player I dislike (O'Sullivan probably) will win the world championship this year...

But when I look back and count it's easy to see that the events won by players (or teams) I like and dislike approximately equal each other. Of course the chance of it depends also on how many sportsmen in a competition you like or dislike.

[JimMalone]

4-0 for Bingham. To me Trump has always been a player who has been better with an early lead. I think Stu is the heavy favorite now.

Well, Stu's win was never really in doubt, was it? ;-)

Good, but not great final. Very thrilling to watch, but not always the highest quality. I'm happy Bingham won, but feel a bit pity for Trump. In the evening he was the slightly better player in my opinion. 8-9 is always a tough loss. But I'm pretty sure he will recover.

[Erwan_BZH]

Must be a toughie to swallow for Judd...He was right back in it in the second session, took the bull by the horns, had a 8-7 lead only to succumb to a very determinded Bingham. Once again, another title is slipping off his hands...Tough because he played superbly all week and besides his 4-frames lapse at the beginning of the match, he was, to me, the better player of the two. No disrespect to Bingham here, he played fantastically well to level it all at 8 all and to clinch the title. Great bottle!!
So for Trump, he must be started to think he's cursed of something like that...he's due to land a big one but for whatever reason, seems he can't cross the finishing line, always falling short. Worrysome?

[DeanH]

2017 Welsh Open

Odrl - I must have missed your views on BO7 :wink:

well, what a night and what a week! It has flown by so fast, from 10am Monday to 11:45pm Sunday. I could physically see all 127 matches and feels like I closely watched 80+
and guess what, I am wondering if I can view the Bingham/Trump that is scheduled for 12noon for the League :biggrin:
Standout players for me... Hossein, Kurt, Igor, Donaldson.
Meeting the owner of TSF, as well as the legend that is Curtis Braithwaite
Walking around Cardiff seeing the players etc like Murphy and Allen strolling into The Pen Shop
Cardiff itself, superb city centre and great night life
Off up the M4 soon so I might even logout of the phone app for a couple of hours :wink:

Big thanks to CB, TT, and the biggest to NT.

[Odrl]

An interesting night of snooker. :smile:

The Welsh Open has provided some excellent finals down the years... The first one I ever watched in full was the terrific battle between Hendry and O'Sullivan in 2005, then there was the unforgettable final between Robertson and Andrew Higginson in 2007, Selby's comeback from 8-5 down against O'Sullivan in 2008, the Maguire-Bingham thriller in 2013... Well, tonight was another one of those classic midnight finishes that only snooker can provide. It was perhaps not as high quality as the ones I mentioned, especially the evening session which had very little fluency, but it's always exciting when so many frames go down to the colours. :smile:

Nice to see Bingham finally getting some reward for his very consistent performances this season. I think he will definitely be a big danger at the Crucible. Trump as well, only one notable title this season, but lots of near misses and impressive performances in single matches. He just needs to string a few good performances together and it could be his year. :smile:

I won't say anything about the tournament as a whole, I'm sure everyone knows my feelings about this particular format by now. I will however mention the usual lack of class from Eurosport, literally ending their broadcast on the continent in the middle of David Hendon's sentence, without a word of goodbye. Not that I am particularly interested in the customary platitudes that follow the victory ceremony, but this recent trend of completely ignoring the viewers on the continent is a little unprofessional.

[Ronnington]

Congrats to Stuart - absolute beast of a player

Joe Johnson's 4rse licking of Trump annoyed the hell out of me throughout the match; terrible commentary

Nice to see Ray Reardon chatting to both players at the end too. Legend

[stephenm2682]

I don't know if there's anything in this (a bit like a dropped slice of toast always landing butter-side down) but does anyone else get a real sense that the vast majority of times the player you want to win a match/final, doesn't??

It's got me so paranoid now, that I feel it's almost guaranteed 'my' player is going to lose, simply because I want him to win.

Maybe support the person you aren't supporting 🤔 🙃or be a neutral😉

[Neil Taperell]

The last 4 colours by Stuart to take it to the decider were great . Thought the shot to open up the reds by Judd in the last was too attacking . Ok if you get the white safe , but he didn't .
Very pleased for Stuart , but not much time to celebrate one get any sleep . As they are both playing each other in Coventry tomorrow at midday ! Poor scheduling that .

[PatBlock]

What a great final this has turned into, one of the best I can remember, some great safety battles going on right now

Was enthralling wasn't it. I thought Judd was going to pinch it, the momentum seemed to shift toward him but fair play to Bingsy, held his nerve when needed, "obviously".

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[Billy]

Trump can be very reckless, probably why I like him.
Well played SB, great final.

I don't know if there's anything in this (a bit like a dropped slice of toast always landing butter-side down) but does anyone else get a real sense that the vast majority of times the player you want to win a match/final, doesn't??

It's got me so paranoid now, that I feel it's almost guaranteed 'my' player is going to lose, simply because I want him to win.