Professional results missing fom Cue Tracker

[Inoffthered]

That's him telt, seven years late but never mind.

Aye. .

[itsnoteasy]

Oh dear .

That's him telt, seven years late but never mind.

[Inoffthered]

Sorry, what is cue tracker????

Oh dear .

[DeanH]

yep certainly is surprising
especially as I did this one back in 2013/4

I assume the details got lost in the huge pile of what we were doing back then

in process to correct the omission

[gmg]

It is amazing that some score just can be found, even some events just were not reported
I contacted WPBSA some years ago and did not get a reply, maybe I will try again, but I have doubts if they keep old records. I am ever an optimistic realist

Of course, if anyone notices anything on or have anything that could build CueTracker, let us know; if you have any old information, contact us

The more surprising frame score omissions to me though are relatively recent ones that were reported in Snooker Scene at the time but aren't included on Cuetracker, such as the 1984 Carlsberg Challenge.

[DeanH]

I was referring to the Cuesports Book of Professional Snooker by Eric Hayton. It was actually from 2004. Over 1000 pages...

yep got that tome

[philezra]

I was referring to the Cuesports Book of Professional Snooker by Eric Hayton. It was actually from 2004. Over 1000 pages...

[DeanH]

Cuetracker is an amazing collaboration of historical records. It's a shame it hasn't been possible to find complete scores and breaks from early world championships. Maybe they don't exist, maybe WSA / WPBSA have records that haven't been released, or there's someone out there who could help.

It is amazing that some score just can be found, even some events just were not reported
I contacted WPBSA some years ago and did not get a reply, maybe I will try again, but I have doubts if they keep old records. I am ever an optimistic realist

Of course, if anyone notices anything on or have anything that could build CueTracker, let us know; if you have any old information, contact us

[DeanH]

I would welcome an updated version of that wonderful publication from around 2008ish??? That listed all the players match records. Pity they didn't include Canadian Opens and in fact all professional tournaments.

what "wonderful publication" are you discussing here?

[Cyril]

Cuetracker is an amazing collaboration of historical records. It's a shame it hasn't been possible to find complete scores and breaks from early world championships. Maybe they don't exist, maybe WSA / WPBSA have records that haven't been released, or there's someone out there who could help.

[philezra]

I would welcome an updated version of that wonderful publication from around 2008ish??? That listed all the players match records. Pity they didn't include Canadian Opens and in fact all professional tournaments.

[DeanH]

Professional results missing fom Cue Tracker

thanks for the information
pleasr pm any definitive stats you have and I will also check my sources here and get the database corrected
cheers

[JIMO96]

I am not 100% on this fact but I believe that two different men called Chris Brooks have had their career records combined. In the 1992 world championship qualifying Bill Werbeniuk was due to play Chris Brooks but scratched. However, Chris Brooks along with Martin Carolan were killed in a car crash leaving David Taylor without an opponent in the next round. There is a brief reference to this event on the internet:

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/12643648.Snooker/

Cuetracker has results from a Chris Brooks for 2001-02 so this must be a different person:

http://cuetracker.net/Players/Chris-Brooks

If anyone can confirm this sequence of events I would be grateful. All part of snooker's history.

You are correct Mick. Christian Brooks died in the crash you mentioned, whereas Christopher Brooks played on the Challenge Tour in the early 2000's.

[mick745]

I am not 100% on this fact but I believe that two different men called Chris Brooks have had their career records combined. In the 1992 world championship qualifying Bill Werbeniuk was due to play Chris Brooks but scratched. However, Chris Brooks along with Martin Carolan were killed in a car crash leaving David Taylor without an opponent in the next round. There is a brief reference to this event on the internet:

http://m.heraldscotland.com/news/12643648.Snooker/

Cuetracker has results from a Chris Brooks for 2001-02 so this must be a different person:

http://cuetracker.net/Players/Chris-Brooks

If anyone can confirm this sequence of events I would be grateful. All part of snooker's history.

[DeanH]

an old thread did mention that Big Bill Werbeniuk beat Doug Mountjoy in the final of the 1983 New Zealand Master, however results from other matches were missing. If i'm not wrong, this could have been Big Bill's one and only individual title, although he was part of the Canadian trio along side Cliff and Kirk, that won the 1982 World Cup.

I did this one and was not able to find any further published results of the New Zealand Master event
Other events had better coverage ut this one does not seem to have been covered at all.
I recently got some more publications covering this period and hope to find some more info.
Obviously, if anyone has details they pass them over