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    The war in ukraine, what it's all about

    Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
    but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

  • #2
    Originally Posted by vmax View Post
    The war in ukraine, what it's all about
    Not the lies that we are being fed in the official narrative

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    • #3
      The economic reasons behind it and how it might effect you

      Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
      but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by trying View Post

        Not the lies that we are being fed in the official narrative
        They bought the media years ago so just play the gullible general public like old fiddle's
        It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

        Wibble

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        • #5
          The only thing the Evil Empire have left is their war machine
          It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

          Wibble

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          • #6
            Silicon Valley Bank has just gone under, more will follow, it's starting
            Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
            but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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            • #7
              Said it right from the start, follow the money, its always about the money. Since the war started we have signed a huge deal to buy our liquid gas from the U. S. At a much higher rate than the Russians charged us. Obviously a complete coincidence.
              This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
              https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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              • #8
                Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                Said it right from the start, follow the money, its always about the money. Since the war started we have signed a huge deal to buy our liquid gas from the U. S. At a much higher rate than the Russians charged us. Obviously a complete coincidence.
                Gas pipeline from norway to the EU went on line the day after the nordstream attack, the Seymour Hersh report says that a norwegian aircraft flew over the nordstream pipeline and detonated the explosives laid by the US military in the summer by remote control. Norwegian gas costs three times the price of the russian gas, the US won't let them sell it cheaply or they'll be next. Kissinger once said 'to be america's enemy is dangerous but to be america's friend is fatal'.
                China is next, the threat from china is being mentioned time and again on the mainstream media news channels, what threat do you feel ?
                I guess the US knows that once the BRICS alliance has it's new currency up and running then china will look to sell back the US debt that it bought in 2008 in the form of US government bonds, several billion dollars worth, that bailed out the US economy at the time. When it's time to pay back your debt it's time to invade and wipe it out and start again, why don't we all do that, invade the banks and tear up our mortgages
                Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                • #9
                  Just look at Bidens speach on the pipeline. To paraphrase him he said, if Russia try to turn it on the U. S. Will stop them, when pressed about what he means by stop them he says something like wait and see, mumbles a bit and repeats the U. S. Will stop them. When the pipeline was close to completion we got the war in Ukraine and the destruction of the pipeline, obviously another massive coincidence.
                  He actually said if Russia enters Ukraine he will stop the pipeline, then when it happened he blamed the Russians for blowing up their own pipeline.
                  https://youtube.com/shorts/FVbEoZXhCrM?feature=share
                  Last edited by itsnoteasy; 13 March 2023, 01:25 PM.
                  This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                  https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                  • #10
                    Putin's special military operation is sanctioned by the UN in accordance with international law.
                    The US and NATO cannot legally intervene to stop russia from ousting Zelensky's belligerant occupation of ukraine without violating UN & NATO non agression pacts pertaining to 'humanitarian operations'.
                    What humanitarian operation is russia conducting ? let the UN explain

                    'Russian forces are conducting a sanctioned military action intended to liberate ukraine from the ongoing belligerent occupation of a foreign invader'
                    According to the UN security council, a decision which was ackonwledged by NATO shortly after russia's special military operation was approved in 2021.
                    Because they cannot legally intervene, the US, UK, Germany, France and Poland are conducting covert propoganda and psychological warfare operations intended to sway public opinion against russia's liberation of ukraine, demoralize russian forces and infuriate Putin in hopes of provoking him into making a mistake which could invalidate the protected status of the special military operation in ukraine.
                    In such a scenario, large scale US & NATO intervention in ukraine would be virtually guaranteed.

                    Now why is the Zelensky government seen by the UN as a foreign invader, quite simply both Crimea and the Donbass region of ukraine held referendums, legal accordin to the UN charter, after the maidan which led to ukraine president Victor Yanakovich being otherthrown in a coup orchestrated by the US/CIA. Yanakovich fled to moscow fearing for his life while an extreme right wing fascist element took over in ukraine which the ethnic russians in ukraine feared. Crimea voted to return to the russian federation and this was quickly put into practise by moscow and the water and power which had been turned off by kiev was restored. This was reported in the western media as an annexation which it was not.
                    The Donbass however voted for autonomy and their own parliament which was refused by kiev and they started a civil war against the Donbass region in 2014, over 14,000 Donbass civilians (ethnic russians) have been killed by the kiev forces and in february last year kiev amassed 70,000 troops on the border for a final attack, Putin then put 100,000 russian troops on the border in response, kiev didn't back down and the russians went in.

                    After discovering that the minsk talks and agreements were in fact a sham designed to buy time for NATO to arm and train ukraines forces Putin knows for certain that he cannot trust the west at all, the blowing up of the nordstream pipeline was intended to not only benefit the US and norway but also to provoke Putin into a retaliatory act, he didn't buy it. The russians intend to destroy the ukraine military and de-nazify ukraine in accordance with the UN charter's sanctioned military operation.
                    Now I don't agree with war and killing by any means but considering what the nazis did to the soviet union in WW2 when 27 million soviets died I understand where the russians are coming from, especially seeing as the ukraine fascists are followers of a certain Stepan Bandera, a ukrainian ultra nationalist in WW2 who's militia was considered even worse than the SS. The present kiev regime have made him a national hero and have put up statues to the man, I have seen it mentioned on the internet that both Anthony Blinken and Vicoria Nuland are descendants of ukrainian Bandera followers who were taken to the US after WW2.

                    Now we know where these people are coming from and what drives their hatred, freedom and democracy my arse

                    Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                    but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                    • #11
                      Sorry if I get the spelling wrong but Ukraine has a significant problem with nazis. There was a huge paramilitary organisation called the Asamov(sp) Battalion, instead of disbanding them they were encapsulated into the Ukraine army. At the start of the war they still fought with nazi insignia on their uniforms, there are pictures of them with Zelensky with the symbols clearly seen on their uniforms. As far as I know they have since been told to remove them for obvious reasons.
                      Just one more thing to think about, very near the start of the war Putin and Zelensky were very close to a peace deal, that close that Boris was flown out to Ukraine to tell Zelensky in no uncertain terms he was not to accept any peace deal, why was that? Why are we demanding anything from Ukraine, its nothing to do with us if they reach a peace deal. Of course the pipeline was still a goer at that time, again another coincidence.
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                      This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
                      https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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                      • #12
                        Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
                        Sorry if I get the spelling wrong but Ukraine has a significant problem with nazis. There was a huge paramilitary organisation called the Asamov(sp) Battalion, instead of disbanding them they were encapsulated into the Ukraine army. At the start of the war they still fought with nazi insignia on their uniforms, there are pictures of them with Zelensky with the symbols clearly seen on their uniforms. As far as I know they have since been told to remove them for obvious reasons.
                        Just one more thing to think about, very near the start of the war Putin and Zelensky were very close to a peace deal, that close that Boris was flown out to Ukraine to tell Zelensky in no uncertain terms he was not to accept any peace deal, why was that?
                        The Azov battalion, they were the fighters that the russians trapped in the Azov steelworks. When finally defeated the ones captured were stripped by the russians to reveal their nazi tattoos and taken away. Amazingly they were exchanged for russian prisoners in a deal brokered by Saudi Arabia.
                        Watch 'Ukraine On Fire' a film by Oliver Stone available on youtube which was released in 2014.

                        Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                        but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                        • #13
                          You all need to watch this, it's very important especially for those of you who have a mortgage.

                          Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                          but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                          • #14
                            Very funny satire but frighteningly accurate

                            Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                            but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                            • #15
                              Well here we go again in the middle east, the official narrative takes a dive right here

                              Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                              but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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