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  • gavpowell
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    Originally Posted by GeordieDS View Post
    Valuev was chasing him around the ring, it's up to the challenger to take the crown and if the idea was to run for twelve rounds then yeah he got it but it isn't so he should never have got that decision, boxing is bull**** these days and I'd rather watch MMA
    Valuev had no business having the crown in the first place, having lost it to Chagaev and only got it back by the WBA duplicating the title and deciding to give one to him and one to Chagaev, then taking Chagaev's away because Don King. Haye's performance was lacklustre, but he was rattling shots off Valuev's head and body and then moving away - when Mayweather does it he's a genius, when Willie Pep "wins a round without throwing a punch" everyone says he's a legend.

    "Hit, don't get hit" - if the other guy is too quick, use intelligence and movement to anticipate him and cut off the ring. If you can't, you lose.

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  • ADR147
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    Originally Posted by GeordieDS View Post
    Valuev was robbed that night, Haye didn't do nearly enough to win, i was shouting at the telly for him to actually do something but obviously i wasn't privvy to the information that the result had already been decided before the fight
    definitely don't want to get into any legal battles but..... yep!

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  • GeordieDS
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    Originally Posted by itsnoteasy View Post
    Haye didn't do much but Valuev did even less, any eye catching stuff was done by Haye, admittedly that was very limited, while it was close ,I feel most of the rounds could have gone either way and it was just one of those fights that was that bad any scorecard would have been fair.
    I give Haye a bit of credit as he's fighting way above his proper weight division, when I was a lad a division was around seven pound( I don't know if it's different now) Haye is fighting men who are naturally multiple stones heavier than him and that aint easy, just ask Amir Khan.
    Valuev was chasing him around the ring, it's up to the challenger to take the crown and if the idea was to run for twelve rounds then yeah he got it but it isn't so he should never have got that decision, boxing is bull**** these days and I'd rather watch MMA

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  • itsnoteasy
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    Haye didn't do much but Valuev did even less, any eye catching stuff was done by Haye, admittedly that was very limited, while it was close ,I feel most of the rounds could have gone either way and it was just one of those fights that was that bad any scorecard would have been fair.
    I give Haye a bit of credit as he's fighting way above his proper weight division, when I was a lad a division was around seven pound( I don't know if it's different now) Haye is fighting men who are naturally multiple stones heavier than him and that aint easy, just ask Amir Khan.

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  • GeordieDS
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    Valuev was robbed that night, Haye didn't do nearly enough to win, i was shouting at the telly for him to actually do something but obviously i wasn't privvy to the information that the result had already been decided before the fight

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  • Byrom
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    Originally Posted by cally View Post
    Can someone tell me why folk believe haye is a top heavyweight when he's fought absolutely no one worth mentioning at the weight?..

    Oh, I nearly forgot , when he did step up and fight klitschko he couldn't get anywhere near him could he.. lol

    Well he did beat that guy Jaws from the James Bond films and he scared the crap outta me

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  • cally
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    Can someone tell me why folk believe haye is a top heavyweight when he's fought absolutely no one worth mentioning at the weight?..

    Oh, I nearly forgot , when he did step up and fight klitschko he couldn't get anywhere near him could he.. lol

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  • Byrom
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    Anyways apparently Fury just been put down on his backside 3 times in sparring by a un-known light heavyweight from Belgium.

    Good preparation eh?

    Also shout out to any David Haye fans out there - his comeback continues tomorrow night against an unbeaten guy - The 'Cobra' who I have never heard of but I be watching as Shannon Briggs is on the undercard and I find him a bit entertaining and its also free to watch on channel ...DAVE.
    Last edited by Byrom; 20 May 2016, 07:20 PM.

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  • gavpowell
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    Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    Just read an interview I totally wrong he said he took it up until it was banned.... drugs in boxing been going on for years
    Yeah, funny how he passed three previous tests in April for the same thing.

    And weirdly enough, his stamina and metabolism all improved right after he lost to Wlad - a career spent as a chubby, slightly sluggish guy and he turns into a powerhouse in his later years. Imagine. He's either been microdosing or he's been taking normal doses and relying on masking it, only it hasn't worked.

    Given his promoter also insisted on delaying the start of testing for 3 weeks, and really wasn't keen on the VADA, I know which one I'm going for.

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  • cally
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    he just wasn't as savvy as he should and could have been. It was a silly 'drug' to be caught taking.

    All boxers, athletes you name it are taking things they shouldn't be at one time or another, sometimes accidentally but more often than not they know exactly what they're doing IMO..

    The top lads aren't so stupid. Plus , sometimes...It's a matter of how good a chemist you can afford....

    Deontay gets to keep the belt a little longer I guess... Lol

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  • Byrom
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    Originally Posted by Byrom View Post
    Could have been spiked - been a few lately - dodgy drinking water over there
    Just read an interview I totally wrong he said he took it up until it was banned.... drugs in boxing been going on for years

    Russian athletes taking performance enhancing stuff - how long has it been going on?

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  • Byrom
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    Originally Posted by cally View Post
    He should fight in the u.s.. meldonium isn't on the banned list over there....
    Could have been spiked - been a few lately - dodgy drinking water over there

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  • cally
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    He should fight in the u.s.. meldonium isn't on the banned list over there....

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  • itsnoteasy
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    Povetkin should never be allowed to fight again, he was taking the same stuff Sharapova was and thats meant to be for a heart complaint, so he's either cheated or has a heart condition,which ever one he picks he shouldn't fight again.

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  • Byrom
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    Gotta milk the cash cows a bit ... no-one fights the big fight anymore....promoters fault but AJ does have a bit of learning to do to be fair to him. I think his head movement and footwork is poor needs improving as does his ability to box off his jab and switch it up.

    He comes in too upright and moves in too square on. Needs more lateral movement which would help him ride any punches coming his way - or he needs to use the distance better behind that jab.

    His footwork and ability to measure the distance with the jab needs work maybe his promoters know this so picking a few easier opponents - learning on the job - as they know he ant quite ready for any career defining fights just yet. His power and level of opponent is masking a lot of mistakes at the moment. You might not agree but I think that he would loose to David Haye at the moment.

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