eBay Willie Smith British record cue - Hand Spliced

[billabong]

Selling my Willie Smith British record cue, which is quite rare in hand spliced form, I understand.

The cue is 54.25" long, 16.15oz ( marked as 18oz ), with 10mm ferrule and 30mm butt. Balance point at 15".

I don't know the value, due to the length, although 58" one is around £250 apparently.

I know members prefer a price, but I don't know how much the length effects the value, so I'm open to offers.

[jim evans]

Take the badge off and value would be a fiver.badge prob worth About £20 so wouldnt think worth a great deal,

[billabong]

Cheers Jim, does 3.75" really make that much difference,

or, in your opinion could you say the same about the cue if it was 58" long ?

[dave121260]

Quite interested would u take £35 ? I'm after something short for pool this seems spot on although the tip is a little big but can put up with that.

[jim evans]

Cheers Jim, does 3.75" really make that much difference,

or, in your opinion could you say the same about the cue if it was 58" long ?

Over the years cues have tended to get a bit longer coś on average people have got taller so 58 in as become a bit of a norm, collectable wise 56 1/2 is ok because the cues were prob a bit smaller at first ,but dave smith is of the impression that a lot of cues were prob made up to 60 ins long initially for export purposes coś its easier to shorten than lengthen even in the early 1900,as a player your cue might be worth more maybe £70 but thats up to interested parties and maybe smaller or junior players.

[mythman69]

Hmmm, I think when you are looking for antique cues you want to find a cue of 57-58 inches. The old cues were often shortened because the tip would split (due to no ferrule) and it would need to be shortened and a new tip put on.

So shorter cues are worth less because they have more of the original shaft cut off and have had more use over the years.

[billabong]

I agree Mythman, although a drop from est £200+ to £35 is a lot for 57/58" --> 54.25" reduction.

I know however that it's only worth what someone will pay for it. Maybe try fleabay next week.

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[jrc750]

A cue as short as this one is unplayable (for 99.9 % of people) so has zero value as a cue, maybe badge hunters would buy it as Jim says, put it on ebay and see how you do

[newport]

Eddie Charlton played with a cue 55"long

[jim evans]

Not realy only for the badge .

[ADR147]

Not realy only for the badge .

worth more than £35 though surely~!

[billabong]

As I'm starting a collection I've already purchased a couple and wondered if this cue is a collectors cue?

I think so, but others don't. Andy Hunter from cues'n'views writes about it here :-

http://www.cuesnviews.co.uk/andyhunt...illiesmith.htm

In case the link doesn't work, I've also included the relevant bit of his opinion in picture 5 of the original post.

Maybe yes, too short for playing with, but I think a good rare collectors cue. IMHO

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[dave121260]

Sorry if I offended any1 with my bid of £35 I was just going by what Jim had said that the cue was worth £5 and badge about £20 sorry

[billabong]

Sorry if I offended any1 with my bid of £35 I was just going by what Jim had said that the cue was worth £5 and badge about £20 sorry

No offence taken Dave, I was dissapointed that Jim chose to give his idea on the value with the cue split into cue + badge,

especially just half an hour after my 1st post. This just made out that the cue was worthless, which I and by the look of it

ADR147 don't agree with. Not out to fleece anyone here, just get realistic offers from members/collectors for a rare cue.

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[jrc750]

... as an antique cue is an antique cue whatsoever the length.

Almost certain it would of been longer when made, so no longer original, therefore no longer desirable
Only way to realise it's worth is to try ebay 99p start see what happens