**Post Pictures of your cue!**

[poona]

Perhaps it may not be John himself making the cues....??

I don't want to fanboy other makers, but the current cue I'm using (the maker will know as he is a member here) is by a country mile better than any of the 3 parris cues I've had previously. The intelligent among you may not take long to investigate this ;-)

You may get an amazing Parris, you may not; it's all what you like personally and your expectations.

[haggishunter]

In my opinion things like that can happen at John Parris
as they must be so busy although there is no excuse for it!
I'm still learning all the time and yes can splice cues and the bottom points
may have been out which is a cosmetic thing and doesn't affect the cue in anyway!
Me like others at the early stage of cue making strive to perfect this!!
Just takes time and lots of practice.
I'm sure John Parris would sort you out if you explained!

I guess what may occur at parris may be that they are taking too many orders and so maybe the QC isn't catching the little errors perhaps? Surely they must be the busiest makers out there (no disrespect to the others )

[raymo147]

In my opinion things like that can happen at John Parris
as they must be so busy although there is no excuse for it!
I'm still learning all the time and yes can splice cues and the bottom points
may have been out which is a cosmetic thing and doesn't affect the cue in anyway!
Me like others at the early stage of cue making strive to perfect this!!
Just takes time and lots of practice.
I'm sure John Parris would sort you out if you explained!

[perpetualboredom]

that is my point but for some people as soon as the word Parris appears it gives them licence to bad mouth him, as per usual on here. Thing is if you don't like him don't go to him for cues. If you have a problem go to him, don't start moaning on here without going to the cue maker first.

Not at all, I've had 2 JP cues and never a bad one. But that's just a bag of shi.. isn't it? Trying to defend the indefensible just makes you sound like a JP fanboy. If the Tsf hobby makers wouldn't send it out, that tells you all you need to know... and they wouldn't be charging the amount JP is either.

[SouthPaw]

I'm sure John didn't know that it was sent out like that, whoever sent it out maybe presumed if it's going somewhere foreign they won't go through the hassle of sending back...

[cueman]

Fair, my cue off raymo is a good playing cue, hits the ball nicely, doesn't look as 'perfect' as some but it plays as well!

that is my point but for some people as soon as the word Parris appears it gives them licence to bad mouth him, as per usual on here. Thing is if you don't like him don't go to him for cues. If you have a problem go to him, don't start moaning on here without going to the cue maker first.

[haggishunter]

Trouble is how do you rectify a problem like this? It needs to be re-spliced (again) and could add to the weight or make the butt thicker and could end up looking like a very funny cue once its been re-done and re-done. The value of the cue will be depreciating in value anyway everytime repairs are undertaken as its obvious what work has been done. Didn't Trevor recently get the measurements wrong on a repair on the cue he made for Higgins. Even the best make mistakes and that for a pro, the way some of you talk its as though this is a major issue. Its a slight cosmetic fault, I've seen hundreds of cues with splices or points out down the years, you know what though, if the cue plays well, who cares really!

Fair, my cue off raymo is a good playing cue, hits the ball nicely, doesn't look as 'perfect' as some but it plays as well!

[haggishunter]

I always use this term for a JP cue.... "Factory Cues"
Correct me if I am wrong....... Sorry, no offense to JP's fans

If I have the budget, I'll get a MW & TW..... never never JP.
Currently only mastercraft & dunn.

I saw Jason's sinbin cue, is actually nice.... but I was late !!

Cheers ~~~~~~~

Maybe what the lad means is that if you buy a wooldridge, cook, white etc then it's made by themselves, but if you buy a parris then it's made by one of the other employees....? But doesn't it say in mw's site that a cue may not be 'fully' made by him but will have his involvement somewhere and it's up to him as to whether it goes out? (might be wrong there, been a while since I read his site). My bro got a second hand parris recently off a member here and it's lovely. If i was to buy a cue from cue makers of that level, i would hope that they were as good as they can be.

[farrelld91]

http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=5
http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=3
http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=4
http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=2
http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=1
http://s1156.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=0

Got this sin bin cue from jim evans, absolute bargain.
58 1/4"
16oz
9.5mm
28mm butt
balance at 16"

Only reason it was a sin bin is cos of the grain, ive seen a lot worse sold for full price, so the flat was put on the side grain

Really nice alternating paduk and teak butt splices with darker veneers on the paduk, pictures really dont do it justice really nice looking cue and very nice hit off it too

[narl]

**Post Pictures of your cue!**

It'll probably have to be planed off then redone from the looks of it.

[cueman]

Trouble is how do you rectify a problem like this? It needs to be re-spliced (again) and could add to the weight or make the butt thicker and could end up looking like a very funny cue once its been re-done and re-done. The value of the cue will be depreciating in value anyway everytime repairs are undertaken as its obvious what work has been done. Didn't Trevor recently get the measurements wrong on a repair on the cue he made for Higgins. Even the best make mistakes and that for a pro, the way some of you talk its as though this is a major issue. Its a slight cosmetic fault, I've seen hundreds of cues with splices or points out down the years, you know what though, if the cue plays well, who cares really!

[narl]

never seen him sell one!

Well they have to be giong somewhere, with the amount of cues he's had over the years he must have a closet full of them by this point if theyre not selling. Can picture him opening the closet and them falling out like spears.

[ADR147]

Depends really on the buyer, most people would just be happy to own an ultimate for the prestiege factor. Ive seen fedia flog one or two with splices slightly out for his usual markup so its not something that will bother everyone.

never seen him sell one!

[narl]

It'll bother the next owner (and your wallet) if you ever sold it..

Depends really on the buyer, most people would just be happy to own an ultimate for the prestiege factor. Ive seen fedia flog one or two with splices slightly out for his usual markup so its not something that will bother everyone.

[perpetualboredom]

From what I'm told he inspects them before they go out. At the minute they're probably getting hammered with work for Christmas so possibly some things slip by if he's not available. To be perfectly honest i don't think it would bother me anyway, not as if im gonna stand gawking at the butt while playing a shot, "Ultimate" has always been about an asthetically pleasing shaft more so than having perfect splices, though with that name and the price people are entitled to having them perfect. Different strokes etc

It'll bother the next owner (and your wallet) if you ever sold it..