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  • #16
    Originally Posted by mikee View Post
    I’m not sure what you mean by upgrading the cushions on the middle pockets on the table ,the only way to fix the middle pocket bounded out is replace the cushion wood freezes with new wider ones .I would keep it like it is ,until you play on it you can’t really tell how often or how bad the bounce out is ,it might be ok .The bounce out problem is only really relevant when you hammer one full pace clean to the back of the pocket plate .One way may be to fill the holes where the pocket plates go in to the wooden cushion and re drill them a tad further back and fit a flat back BCE plate that sits flush with the back of the cushion freeze ,BCE cushions are not as wide like a Star or a Rasson but the plate is right back to allow a clean drop in to the bag ,also the BCE plate on the inside is cut and angled down to force the ball down ,B&W plate is just flat .
    I believe this would be done.

    They can be fitted with modern middle plates set back to avoid bounce out.

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    • #17
      If you set the pocket plates back you will crack the capping's as you weaken the support behind the plate by reducing the wood capping material thickness
      all borough's and watts tables have a upward pocket bolt that screws into the large lug , this lug is in the main body of the cushion and cannot be set back further as that bolt cannot be set back further than the main body of the cushion , if you put two pin plates on it which some do , they will in time crack the top wood capping as you have set them back too far .
      when you slam a ball at that centre pocket it can take the pressure if it is under bolted , but two pin plates the pressure is all on the back supporting wood work .

      as for muntin on a rigidus table , only cross ways on each joint between the legs , the adjustable floating ones on a rigidus are the outer joint muntin's that cross the table at those joints , none do what modern muntin's do .

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      • #18
        Originally Posted by Geoff Large View Post
        If you set the pocket plates back you will crack the capping's as you weaken the support behind the plate by reducing the wood capping material thickness
        all borough's and watts tables have a upward pocket bolt that screws into the large lug , this lug is in the main body of the cushion and cannot be set back further as that bolt cannot be set back further than the main body of the cushion , if you put two pin plates on it which some do , they will in time crack the top wood capping as you have set them back too far .
        when you slam a ball at that centre pocket it can take the pressure if it is under bolted , but two pin plates the pressure is all on the back supporting wood work .

        as for muntin on a rigidus table , only cross ways on each joint between the legs , the adjustable floating ones on a rigidus are the outer joint muntin's that cross the table at those joints , none do what modern muntin's do .
        Thank you. How could this middle pocket issue be fixed?

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by fkhan View Post
          Thank you. How could this middle pocket issue be fixed?
          It can’t be fixed it’s a trait of older tables that were designed at a time of a more gentle game .Geoff looks after my table and he explained it all to me some time ago Full Replacement of cushions and pocket plates on table ,or get a more modern table .My old B&W table used to spit balls back out of the middles if hit very hard dead in middle ,I sold it as the slates were gone and split and the table needed a lot of work .

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