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    according to C Henry (his last post on Facebook) : Is time to re-write the official coaching manual. Stephen Hendry / ROS / Mark Williams / Peter Ebdon / John Higgins. They are all CB players. Mark Selby / Jud Tramp / John Murfy : Mixed (CB / OB players). Well Well Well, I thought it was only ROS.( Looks like we have Sum new developments). it gets better and better every day !!! Terry Davidson And Stu ,, looks like you have a lot of work to do guys !!! (changing the coaching manual ). good news for eye specialists. they're going to sell a lot of glasses. clearly, Chris can see something , that many of other players re not be able to see !!!! Chris Henry : a great coach with very strange ideas !!!!!

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    Pretty sure Ronnie is mixed as well? Think it was on one of the ROS shows when he got asked what he looked at.. and he said "I suppose you're meant to look at the object ball.. but sometimes I find myself looking at the white". Or something to that effect. To be honest I don't think it's something the pros think about a lot, Steve Davis even said that most don't even know what they're looking at, probably looking at whole picture. I know MJW is very pro-CB.

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    • #3
      The only player that I have noticed and that I'm confident is a CB player is John Higgins . I have seen Allen and selt looking at CB on strike aswell but it's not all the time (when I saw Allen doing it he was playing badly ) . I noticed selt was doing it for long potting on Sunday .

      I have seen a few players that look like they are staring at CB on strike but they could be flicking their eyes onto OB at the last split second and it's too quick for me to tell without a slow mo video

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      • #4
        Originally Posted by moose View Post
        Pretty sure Ronnie is mixed as well? Think it was on one of the ROS shows when he got asked what he looked at.. and he said "I suppose you're meant to look at the object ball.. but sometimes I find myself looking at the white". Or something to that effect. To be honest I don't think it's something the pros think about a lot, Steve Davis even said that most don't even know what they're looking at, probably looking at whole picture. I know MJW is very pro-CB.
        bingo!!!!!!!!!!

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        • #5
          A Great coach with very strange ideas !!!!!

          groundhog day anyone?

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          • #6
            A Great coach with very strange ideas !!!!!

            Chris knows how to cook up a storm with his Facebook posts with contentious ideas to rack up the comments. When not doing that he is a good coach with access to some of the games top players.

            If we are talking of a coaching manual - I read it, tried it, binned it..........having remembered what is in it! As individuals we are far too diverse to have one approach for any technique or methods of skills acquisition.

            The most effective players will not be able to tell you what they look at with any ease, this is a tiny detail that has been pushed to a part of their processing labelled 'this works!'. I played for years and couldn't have told you what I looked at until I broke my game down and found out I was CB, I switched to OB after reading many pieces of guidance. I now do what feels right at the time and my game is developing again and play my best when there is no unnecessary focus.

            It is only when I am happy in my understanding of a client's personal view of the table will I tweak. Some need to plan more, some plan less. Some need to speed up, some slow down. Some need to forget, some remember. None of this is possible without speaking and listening with understanding between coach and client. I haven't found a manual that is written for all to understand containing techniques that are effective for all.
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            • #7
              We've all got our own game, i look at the CB just before hitting the OB.

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              • #8
                Sometimes when I'm doing a safety and I don't care (to a degree) where the object ball goes but it's important to screw back to the cushion then I look at the white when I strike.

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by cyberheater View Post
                  Sometimes when I'm doing a safety and I don't care (to a degree) where the object ball goes but it's important to screw back to the cushion then I look at the white when I strike.
                  Most of us do I would say

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                  • #10
                    Any top player or pro who cues straight has no need to look at the c b at time of delivery , i believe the ones that do maybe questioning or doubting their technique or straight cueing as a result of poor form and loss in confidence .

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                    • #11
                      Originally Posted by hotpot View Post
                      Any top player or pro who cues straight has no need to look at the c b at time of delivery , i believe the ones that do maybe questioning or doubting their technique or straight cueing as a result of poor form and loss in confidence .
                      Agreed. And also any top player or pro has no idea what they are looking at when striking. It is a long road with no reward when you start to think what to look at.

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                      • #12
                        Agreed. And also any top player or pro has no idea what they are looking at when striking. It is a long road with no reward when you start to think what to look at.
                        For the love of God... anyone looking into this... perish the thought!

                        It doesn't matter, your mind sorts all that out without you having to worry about it.

                        The second you start to ask "where am I looking?" the best thing you can do is put your cue in it's case and go home...

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                        • #13
                          Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                          It doesn't matter, your mind sorts all that out without you having to worry about it.

                          The second you start to ask "where am I looking?" the best thing you can do is put your cue in it's case and go home...
                          Yep totally agree. I went through a few weeks of thinking about it. You just can't do it. Totally ruins your game.

                          I played in my local pro-am last weekend and I have absolutely no idea what my eyes were doing all day. Didn't think about it at all.
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                          • #14
                            Originally Posted by pottr View Post
                            For the love of God... anyone looking into this... perish the thought!

                            It doesn't matter, your mind sorts all that out without you having to worry about it.

                            The second you start to ask "where am I looking?" the best thing you can do is put your cue in it's case and go home...
                            yep I agree too - start thinking about this and bugger up your game for sure - been there done that.

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                            • #15
                              When I'm in amongst the balls i look at the OB but for long shots and especially off the cushion I find myself looking at the CB, it's like I have taken a mental photograph and I'm happy it will all work out, obviously if you're playing badly it doesn't matter where you're looking as you'll find a way to mess it up
                              It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

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