Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

[Terry Davidson]

and the best was jimmys or trumps?

I think Jimmy's. I still remember Jimmy breaking the pack from the black and top cushion with top stuff, those shots always impressed me. I try to do them on my table but it's too slow to get the same effect and the pack acts like a big lump

[pottr]

That Jimmy masse shot officially tells me you haven't got the foggiest... I really hoped you were trolling me

[pottr]

Ramon, on that picture, you can't see the cue!

playing that white there on that brown with the cue coming straight at that angle, misses WIDE to the left of the pocket... Very wide... you're talking 8/10 inches.

To get close with that once from that angle you need to play with EXTREME right hand side... Even then it's close

[Ramon]

and the best was jimmys or trumps?

I would say Jimmys .
He is the master of using side .

[Ramon]

This is how you gonna have to cue in orde to get so much deflection in a distance of 6" .

[j6uk]

and the best was jimmys or trumps?

[pottr]

It's not a swerve shot, but the effect on the white is the same, only less accentuated.

The main players on this debate are:
travis
HMBS
Terry
Vmax

If one of those four come forward and say that you are commenting on what they are, I will bow down to you and call you master x

[Ramon]

That DOES happen... if you don't know that, then you're really not at the level where you can contribute to this debate.

The pool players call it 'deflection' I believe?

in a distance of 6/7 inches ??? that's about 12cm
You do understand to get that kind of deflection in such a short distance you gonna have to play a swerve shot, right?

My friend, are you okey?

[j6uk]

Is that a euphemism?

i heard it somewhere, probably a military term

[Ramon]

Ramon, you've sewn yourself up here... I'm trying to keep polite and constructive... If you were next to me on a table, I could explain this in seconds and you would be like: "oooooohhhh, that's what you mean" I promise you.

What you're describing, no offense... but it's really an intermediate part of positional play. Playing with side causes the white to deflect... Great stuff, we get it, you get it and I got it when I was around the 50 break level.

It's basic.

Not what we are talking about. That shot is exclusively irrelevant to this topic.

That too !!

Using side causes the OB to alter it's path . And that's what you do'nt see .
May i have the answer to the question i asked please ?

can you pot the brown with Center ball striking here , from this position ? yes or No ?


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[pottr]

very mercurial character you are tel, still would of liked to have seen you stroking in full flow back in the day..

Is that a euphemism?

[pottr]

the way i see it , Terry and Vmax are saying by using side the CB makes some kind of swerve and approach the OB from a diff angle in order to alter the OB's path .
Are you saying they did'nt say that ?

That DOES happen... if you don't know that, then you're really not at the level where you can contribute to this debate.

The pool players call it 'deflection' I believe?

[Ramon]

The video still doesn't even show a cue so how can you tell how it's lined up? It's purely showing where you strike the white for this shot!

Would be nice if you watch the vid one more time and pay attention to what they say as well as the picture I uploaded ?

[j6uk]

Actually not that good. If you remember we had our 'discussion' which started when you couldn't understand why I didn't go for a 147 all the time I practiced with the line-up, which kick off our discussion and I stated I had only had 3 x 147 but the first one was in practice by myself, so was the second and the third was against an opponent but not in a match. I don't count breaks done in solo practice no matter how high they are, but like pottr I would love to run more in solo practice anyway, just for some more confidence. The best I've done lately was a 102 the other day and an 87 the day after(not line-up) but those are nothing to brag about. For me it's the endurance now as I have 3 frames by myself and I'm beat but I keep telling myself that I'm taking all the shots so that's like 6 frames practice.

very mercurial character you are tel, still would of liked to have seen you in full flow back in the day..

[pottr]

Ramon, you've sewn yourself up here... I'm trying to keep polite and constructive... If you were next to me on a table, I could explain this in seconds and you would be like: "oooooohhhh, that's what you mean" I promise you.

What you're describing, no offense... but it's really an intermediate part of positional play. Playing with side causes the white to deflect... Great stuff, we get it, you get it and I got it when I was around the 50 break level.

It's basic.

Not what we are talking about. That shot is exclusively irrelevant to this topic.