Sidespin on a snooker table both with and against the nap

[vmax]

Where do you order them from?

ebay Terry

[Terry Davidson]

then i think you set it up wrong cus for the last 35yrs i dont think iv even tried to pot a straight black off its spot plain ball seeing only 3/4 of it. but hay if iv been doing it wrong turning down balls that dont go then im coming out of retirement neck brace an all..


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I doubt very much you've been turning down pots that could be made whether with side or without. I tried to copy what I saw in your video but there's always the proviso that my eyes may see different from someone else's eyes. I have had eye surgery a few times so maybe Biggy is right and I AM blind.

[Terry Davidson]

Terry, get some Long BA tips from china, about £3 for a box of 50, they can't be faulted IMO, every one I've tried has been as good as the best Elk.

Where do you order them from?

[alabadi]

Alabadi are you genuinely adding this to your locker? I'm sorry but I find all this talk of SIT etc to be a complete waste of time. There are people who can't pot half a dozen balls in a row talking about such intricacies, it seems ridiculous to me. I don't think the pro's bother with this so why would we bother?

For the guys who struggle to pot balls without side practice that first.

Tom , all I'm saying is the shot I mentioned I can play it. I have no idea what SIT or CIT is or was until people starting talking about it in this thread. It doesn't interest me at all.

For me I know that if a shot came up similar to what I described and needed to pot it and widen the angle the cue ball takes I can play it, that's all.
I don't use side when playing most shots unless it's necessary for position or safety , and I use it sparingly even so.

[travisbickle]

Alabadi are you genuinely adding this to your locker? I'm sorry but I find all this talk of SIT etc to be a complete waste of time. There are people who can't pot half a dozen balls in a row talking about such intricacies, it seems ridiculous to me. I don't think the pro's bother with this so why would we bother?

For the guys who struggle to pot balls without side practice that first.

What a load of nonsense.
Unless you have perfect CB control all the time (which not even the best players in the world have) this is a very handy shot to know and not that hard to learn.

[j6uk]

I tried to set up Jason's balls exactly how they were in his video, the first shot. I was able to pot the ball using no side and I was also able to pot the ball using side and power and the power is supposed to cancel out SIT.

Just do as I recommend above...set the balls up so you can see BOB is hidden by the red and then try it yourself. If you make it then SIT exists for your skill-set. If you can't make it then you have no reason to be even considering trying to use SIT to throw a ball in. Don't cheat even 1 millimeter. The cueball black should be exactly lined up to 1.5" outside of the nearest pottable slop-in spot. The black/red combo to hide BOB is lined up to 6" below the green or yellow pocket. Now see if BOB is actually covered and see if you can pot the ball.

then i think you set it up wrong cus for the last 35yrs i dont think iv even tried to pot a straight black off its spot plain ball seeing only 3/4 of it. but hay if iv been doing it wrong turning down balls that dont go then im coming out of retirement neck brace an all..


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[j6uk]

Not a lot of gray either, so there!

you would of been a scalpers wet dream back in the day

[j6uk]

beautiful words Jason, an absolute poet. The issue is many forget to get back on the board and go back to what they really know.

i hear you tom, though the metaphor was intended to underline that you never forget how to balance on the board.

[vmax]

Terry, get some Long BA tips from china, about £3 for a box of 50, they can't be faulted IMO, every one I've tried has been as good as the best Elk.

[Terry Davidson]

Wow, that's nice Tom. I guess you've been told. Ramon believes SIT exists and is useful.

[Ramon]

Alabadi are you genuinely adding this to your locker? I'm sorry but I find all this talk of SIT etc to be a complete waste of time. There are people who can't pot half a dozen balls in a row talking about such intricacies, it seems ridiculous to me. I don't think the pro's bother with this so why would we bother?

For the guys who struggle to pot balls without side practice that first.

this thread is not about whether uncle bob can play (or should use side) or not !!
Neither you having a Cup of coffee with Abraham Lincoln many years ago is relevant here .
The topic is whether the effect of it works or not !!
After 2000 posts , Some one with your IQ
Should be able to undrstand that .

[Terry Davidson]

beautiful words Jason, an absolute poet. The issue is many forget to get back on the board and go back to what they really know.

I didn't realize you were from Nuneaton Tom, like pottr although he said he played with you recently. I've played Mick Price in the Attak(?) snooker club and I remember on the table we were on the brown to centre pocket had a horrific roll so I'm blaming that as Mick beat me if I remember rightly. Too bad Mick's claim to fame was as the opponent for Ronnie's fastest ever 147. We used to travel to the pro ticket tournaments together where he qualified in 1987 I think and I missed by one match against (damn, his name escapes me although I heard he later slit his wrists but didn't succeed).

[Terry Davidson]

Terry... don't get me wrong I've found the videos particularly your own very interesting as is the theory behind it.
However I've made century breaks and I miss shots plain ball. It pains me to see lesser players talking about applying side as if they believe it could help them.
We strike up and down the middle of the cue ball because we want to make the game easier. It's difficult enough without over complicating it.

When I play pool I use alot more side because simply put it's a doddle to pot balls on a pool table so I can apply side without worrying about potentially missing the pot.

If Travis or Mr BS have a retort then fair enough. I'm just saying this thread is the opposite of helpful for snooker players, which is who this forum is aimed at.

The bolded statement is so true. I love snooker and don't find centre-ball striking and making breaks to be boring at all like Travis does. The other point is I have never heard a play say 'damn it, I missed that pot because of unintentional object ball throw'. It is inconsequential and even if it did exist the opportunity to use it would come up very rarely. Changing the attack angle of the cueball is a fact and it can be used but again in very rare situations.

[Terry Davidson]

its that full mop of hair you got, not that im not jealous

Not a lot of gray either, so there!

[tomwalker147]

as for who should use side and when, playing snooker is like a balancing act. if anyone hasn't tried a balance board you must.
trying to stay on balance is like finding the core of the white, but once you can stay on the board you will inevitably try a trick of to that you may of seen,. but you will always know the importance of staying on the board and being on balance.

beautiful words Jason, an absolute poet. The issue is many forget to get back on the board and go back to what they really know.