Highest snooker break by a woman?

[dcrackers147]

not meaning to sound sexist but a good male amuter is plays at a better standard than a top female pro...sorry ladies but its true

[s1ivv3r]

not meaning to sound sexist but a good male amuter is plays at a better standard than a top female pro...sorry ladies but its true

Sorry fella... Alison Fisher was a great player... and she beat lots of "Good Male Amateurs" in her time.

[dcrackers147]

Sorry fella... Alison Fisher was a great player... and she beat lots of "Good Male Amateurs" in her time.

yea im not saying she wasent but i bet she lost to alot to....but she is probably the best woman pro there has been and she would never of turned pro on the mens tour sorry just wouldn't of happend.

[Terry Davidson]

First of all, I believe Alison Fisher did play on the regular pro tour for awhile, check the latest Snooker Scene article (I don't have it with me here in Montreal) but I think it did mention her beating some very good pros in matches, but I'm not sure they were ranking tournaments.

Secondly, when Snooker Scene tracked the top 100 amateurs in the late 80's I believe she was ranked somewhere around 50 or so and both of us competed in almost every pro-am going in Britain in those days. On her day Alison could beat any one of the top amateurs, although I'll admit it didn't happen often. When the WPBSA opened it up in 1988 most of the players ranked above us turned pro, like Steve James, David Roe, Jeff Cundy, Mark Johnson-Allen, Chris Scanlon, Steve Meakin, etc. etc.

Thirdly, I have never been a pro but I've had 3 147's in practice and my best competition break is 138. There are many, many amateurs who have multiple 147's both in practice and competition who have no pro ambitions.

I can name 2 from Canada right off the top of my head, Floyd Zeigler total of 3 in competition) and Lester Mianskum (I believe 11 in competition, but not sure) and neither of these 2 players have pro ambitions solely due to the fact they would have to move to the UK (and in Floyd's case he doesn't like to fly).

And in our defence, most of these perfect games were made on tables either very close to template or in a lot of cases tighter than the pro templates, and with Aramith balls and WOE 6811 cloth.

However, in Canada we have a couple of types of tables that do have bucket pockets like Brunswick Gold Crowns and OBS Windsors plus some opf these 147's would have been made awhile ago with Super Crystalate balls. I will also admit, generally in the |UK I didn't come across too many tables with bucket pockets and also played on a lot of tables with thicker and slower cloths. My 147's were all made on fast cloths with templated pockets.

Terry

[dcrackers147]

First of all, I believe Alison Fisher did play on the regular pro tour for awhile, check the latest Snooker Scene article (I don't have it with me here in Montreal) but I think it did mention her beating some very good pros in matches, but I'm not sure they were ranking tournaments.

Secondly, when Snooker Scene tracked the top 100 amateurs in the late 80's I believe she was ranked somewhere around 50 or so and both of us competed in almost every pro-am going in Britain in those days. On her day Alison could beat any one of the top amateurs, although I'll admit it didn't happen often. When the WPBSA opened it up in 1988 most of the players ranked above us turned pro, like Steve James, David Roe, Jeff Cundy, Mark Johnson-Allen, Chris Scanlon, Steve Meakin, etc. etc.

Thirdly, I have never been a pro but I've had 3 147's in practice and my best competition break is 138. There are many, many amateurs who have multiple 147's both in practice and competition who have no pro ambitions.

I can name 2 from Canada right off the top of my head, Floyd Zeigler total of 3 in competition) and Lester Mianskum (I believe 11 in competition, but not sure) and neither of these 2 players have pro ambitions solely due to the fact they would have to move to the UK (and in Floyd's case he doesn't like to fly).

And in our defence, most of these perfect games were made on tables either very close to template or in a lot of cases tighter than the pro templates, and with Aramith balls and WOE 6811 cloth.

However, in Canada we have a couple of types of tables that do have bucket pockets like Brunswick Gold Crowns and OBS Windsors plus some opf these 147's would have been made awhile ago with Super Crystalate balls. I will also admit, generally in the |UK I didn't come across too many tables with bucket pockets and also played on a lot of tables with thicker and slower cloths. My 147's were all made on fast cloths with templated pockets.

Terry

i am not saying alison is not good but you saying she could beat anyone on her day but it didnt happen that often well i could and have beaten pros and top amuters on my day but it doesent happen very often hense why i am not interested in trying to turn pro i gave that idea up when i realised i could no longer dedicate my entire social life to snooker...i have made 2 147s in practice but i am only 22..and a tight club table is not even close to the pro tables i have played on Ali Carters being one of them.

[ore]

not meaning to sound sexist but a good male amuter is plays at a better standard than a top female pro...sorry ladies but its true

Sadly probably it is true/close to true.

But not without quite enough of non-gender related reasons, I'm affraid.
Have you tried taking a look at this?

Because they are currently no good enough. Why? Here are some ideas about it.
http://prosnookerblog.com/2009/11/21...es-in-snooker/

and have a look at the comments as well.

[missneworleans]

my is 97

[circle]

Hmm

Im sure Kelly Fisher has made many 147s, Allison Fisher... i think her highest is 144

As for 147s being a yardstick for a players true ability or future potential........id rather use an elasticated tape measure!

[Terry Davidson]

Your are absolutely correct circle. You just need to point to Willie Thorne who has (I believe) over 500 147's but Willie only ever won one ranking tournament in his career, plus I'm not sure he has one in tournament play

Terry

[sunny3909]

I think the # 1 female player which I believe is Reanne Evans,She would be no way near the top 100 pros.No disrespect but I don't think they are good enough.

Alison Fisher might have beaten some pros but it was very rear.I remember a televised match when Dennis Taylor gave Alison Fisher a 40 point handicap and beat her.

[magicman]

If I'm honest I don't think it's fair to compare male and females in any sport. Reanne is a fabulous player and dominates her sport. As there is no real female pro tour for her to compete in, she, like Alison and Kelly Fisher before her, has to decide to leave the game for the US and play pool or try and take on the men. Not a great choice for her really is it?

[magicman]

Ok. Maybe not loads, but I could name 6-7 players off the top of my head, including myself who have made maximums but have never even competed on the PIOS. Buckets or not you still have to pot the balls! Most players don't have local clubs with steel block pro cut templated tables with match cloths and under-table heaters to practice on!

[APK]

I have refereed many of the top professional women players and have, unfortunately, found that they just don't quite stack up to the men. If you look at the early rounds for the World Championship you will occasionally find one of the ladies but they do not make any headway even against unknowns.
I have asked some of them sbout this and they say that one of the main problems is that even the best lady players cannot commit to snooker 24/7. They have limited or no sponsorship. They have to hold down a job to pay the bills first and then be a top snooker player as well.
If the men had this problem, it would show in their abilities as well.

It has been a couple of years but I know Lisa Quick was one of the best lady break builders I ever saw. The players I spoke to agreed.
I am talking about the times of Kelly Fisher, Karen Corr, Emma Bonney, Lynette Horsborough, Lisa Quick and the early years of Reanne Evans, Wendy Jans and Maria Catalano (Ronnie O'Sullivans cousin).
A statement was made to me in my early exposure to the ladies game.......
"There is a wide range of talents here today. At best it is 'top end of your local league' at worst there is trouble hitting a barn door a five paces with a scatter gun."

I found this to be quite a harsh remark but at the extremes it was not entirely untrue.

You need to realise that the ladies who play range from the fresh faced and, I'm sorry to say outclassed (at a World Championship Tournament, a young lady from Brazil ammassed about 100 points scored accumulated over an entire 5 person best of 3 round robin) to the oldest professional sportsperson (I wish I could remember her name). I have also witnessed the true meaning of a World Championship. Players have come from all over the world to play. You just don't see that in the mens game because most of the talent capable of getting to the televised stages is from the UK. Yet in the ladies game there are players in the thick of it from France, India, Norway, New Zealand, Brazil and I am sure many many more places.
I wish the WPBSA would give their support back to the ladies so that the World Championship could be more accessible. I miss that week in Swindon.

[aldo0978]

I think Moniques post covered the main point and there is not much more to say.

In general womens make up does not suit them competing against men (in general). However if they where on a equal par with men i.e. as many players and all welcome in clubs you may get the odd couple who could compete and who knows maybe even win events. But there are alot of if and buts here so it is not likely to happen.

But you never no you might get a one off one day. Look at the darts Anastasia Dobromyslova is about to break into the top 100 of the pdc. I am not saying she is ever going to win a big event but she is competing with men in a hand eye coordination sport where you dont need phisical strength.

[philip in china]

At risk of being attacked can I just ask what to me is an obvious question: why are there so few women who play at the sort of level we are discussing here? Are there, or have there ever been, any women who could seriously hold their own on the pro circuit?