Measuring distances with cue - foul?

[tommygunner1309]

marks or markers and also on the cue as well as the table



The original scenario of using the finger to mark a position on the cue, this is then referenced in an other point on the table; is very close to "measuring". difficult one...

Dean H - i think the rules I pointed out to Tommy68 above covers this one too. I have to say though - In the 52 matches I have officially reffed - I have never had a problem of this sort. All the guys have been real gentlemen and played fair. Lucky for me I reckon as I am not really looking forward to warning someone - Alex Higgins had a way with dealing with refs hehehe

[DeanH]

Dean H - i think the rules I pointed out to Tommy68 above covers this one too. I have to say though - In the 52 matches I have officially reffed - I have never had a problem of this sort. All the guys have been real gentlemen and played fair. Lucky for me I reckon as I am not really looking forward to warning someone - Alex Higgins had a way with dealing with refs hehehe

Thanks for the reply.
Yep, those rules do allow the referee to ensure fairness to both players, and are often forgotten in the UK as well
It is strange that, as you say, the exams are not uniform across the country, let alone Euro/World!
Is there a "World Snooker Referees" governing body? EASB is UK only is it not? Are there affiliates in other coutries?
Do you recall the TSF-member [who asked to be "banned"] who used to respond to rule-questions, I believe he was working on a "Player's Guide to Snooker Rules", do you know of any news on that?

[tommygunner1309]

Yes Dean H - I think you are referring to 'Souwester'. A great shame that he is no longer here. I found his posts excellent and he is obviously a very knowledgeable and efficient referee.
I am not too sure about all the affiliations of referee organisations, but they really all should come together under one roof and thrash out their differences. My certificate for grade 3 came from the EASB and I look to them as the controlling body, if you like. I am also a member of the Brighton and Hove RA and of course the Sussex RA which does such a great job with the large manual, and at only 15GBP I consider it a bargain. Derek Budde is on the committee of the WPBSA refs with (I believe) Alan Chamberlain as chairman.
Apart from that, I am not too sure how all the other bodies fit in. OK it is still fairly early days with Snooker as a world sport - it wasn't too long ago it was only GB, the commonwealth, China and Thailand that really took part - but I think it must be time now for all the worlds snooker ref bodies to come together so that we have a uniform set of controls. As you said, I believe EASB just deals with GB - so perhaps now we need a WASB formed of all the best tutor/examiners. It is essential to me that when a referee starts a match, whether it be at the crucible, or the local fishing club, the format and rules should be uniform.
Yes, I too was looking at a Players guide to the rules, using the SRA comments pages as a guide - but think I probably need the advice of a top tutor/examiner as I don't want to go breaking publishing rights law, or stepping on too many toes. I love refereeing and would hate to be ostracized for opening mouth before engaging brain. With the amateur season at a close at the moment, I don't see much of Derek but will certainly talk to him about this problem as soon as I am able.

In the meantime - its nose in the rules book - looking for loopholes.