Freeball question

[Raldon]

Following situation after a Foul:

Freeball.jpg

Simple question: Freeball or not?

[jrc750]

No, you can get to the edge no problem

[jrc750]

Or are you about to put the red line perpendicular to the white ball line and prove me wrong lol

[DeanH]

Freeball question

no free ball, as you can hit both extreme edges of the yellow as played in a direct line from the cue ball.
from the image it does appear that the cue ball wont hit the green before or at the same time as hitting the extreme of the yellow. in this situation a ref may take a red to test the contact point and the green.

[DeanH]

Freeball question

if you can project a line from the left side of the cue ball to the right side of the yellow and place an image of the cue ball at the point of contact, does it interfere the green?

[Raldon]

in this situation a ref may take a red to test the contact point and the green.

Many thanks Dean. This should be the right answer i guess!

Do you need a ref for this situation:

freeball1.jpg

Freeball or not?

[jrc750]

Many thanks Dean. This should be the right answer i guess!

Do you need a ref for this situation:

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Freeball or not?

That looks like a fee ball to me
Why are you putting the red line on each time ?? you need to put it in the correct place at least !!

[Raldon]

Freeball question

sry, the red line is just to show the different position of the yellow and green. i just wasnt sure about the quality of the picture.

[jrc750]

You should put the red line through the centre of the yellow perpendicular to the white ball as it approaches, this would then clearly show if you can hit the extreme edge or not before hitting the green

[nst]

definitely not in the first situation and very likely not in the second but that may have to be tested.

[DeanH]

Freeball question

the second image looks close to a possible freeball as the cue ball would hit the green first or simultaneously with the yellow.
and as you know simultaneous is not allowed (unless two reds).
unless you nominate green as the free ball then for the shot the green is regarded as a yellow

[Londonlad147]

The first example is likely not a free ball, but it definitely is a free ball in the second example, where the cue ball would first hit the green before hitting the finest edge of the yellow.