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Originally Posted by Londonlad147 View PostBecause the nearest obstruction to the cue ball is the curved part of the cushion adjacent to the centre pocket. Curved parts of cushions are specifically excluded in the rules.
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Originally Posted by Londonlad147 View PostBecause the nearest obstruction to the cue ball is the curved part of the cushion adjacent to the centre pocket. Curved parts of cushions are specifically excluded in the rules.
Not sure if the aspect of the jaw of a pocket and its ruling was meant in this case, i.e. it was meant for scenarios where the cue ball or object ball are physically in the pocket opening and the curve is physically impeded a straight shot - "jawed"
hmm, time to ponder this one
As mentioned above, by the wording of the rule:
(e) The cue-ball cannot be snookered by a cushion. If the curved face of a cushion obstructs the cue-ball and is closer to the cue-ball than any obstructing ball not on, the cue-ball is not snookered.
the scenario in the image is NOT a free ball - but as said previously a real bugger in a match with no officiating referee - beers may fly! :biggrin:
See http://www.thesnookerforum.co.uk/boa...f-you-have-one and the attachment 4 and "Jaw" section; this exact scenario is not shown but the concept and explanation does cover it.Last edited by DeanH; 7 August 2017, 10:31 AM.Up the TSF! :snooker:
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Originally Posted by DeanH View PostAn inch or so further along the cushion with all balls in exactly the same position and relation to each other and the curve of the jaw not in the picture and only the straight of the cushion, it would be a free ball?
Not sure if the aspect of the jaw of a pocket and its ruling was meant in this case, i.e. it was meant for scenarios where the cue ball or object ball are physically in the pocket opening and the curve is physically impeded a straight shot - "jawed"
hmm, time to ponder this one
I'm sure most referees believe that the rule is only meant to apply when the centre of the cue ball lies outside the area bounded by the straight cushions - ie in the jaws of a pocket, but that isn't what's actually written. Let's hope Jan Verhaaas and his colleagues on the rules committee clarify the wording soon.Duplicate of banned account deleted
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Originally Posted by Londonlad147 View PostThat's right. Move the three balls down the table an inch, and there would be a free ball.
I'm sure most referees believe that the rule is only meant to apply when the centre of the cue ball lies outside the area bounded by the straight cushions - ie in the jaws of a pocket, but that isn't what's actually written. Let's hope Jan Verhaaas and his colleagues on the rules committee clarify the wording soon.
there does seem to be an advantage gained by the offender through a foul in this scenario
when are the committee sitting next? :biggrin:Up the TSF! :snooker:
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