Worst standard final ever?

[April madness]

The standard of snooker does look likes its going down hill, the cloths are getting thinner yet, the players are making less tons. OK this aint the only criteria for the standard of snooker but it doesnt look good.

Less tons than when? Which years are you comparing? From the graph I can conclude it's an upward trend, i.e. more tons on average than previous years.

And of course, I know that BBC commentators doesn't understand anything of snooker, but I clearly remember them saying those thin cloths make those tables not easy at all, as it requires an exceptional cue ball control. And the pockets are smaller as well...

[Le Ball Sack]

Well the last six years has seen less tons than in 2002, although in 2007 and 2002 they are both equal on 68 tons. The cloths are alot thinner than even in 2002. So using that logic easier splitting of the balls should yield more tons. Also during the past 6 years the likes of Smurphy, selby, mark allen, ding, maguire joined the main snooker scene and so theortically these players should be pushing the total ton's to an even high level.

[April madness]

It would be more interesting to judge about average level of the game not based on tons made just in one tournament, but rather the whole season...

[janverhaas]

The pockets are bigger than ever, don't let the biased commentators tell you otherwise, use your own eyes.

I am sick of hearing about centuries. When a player reaches 75 the frame is over and the rest of the frame is irrelevant. :snooker:

[Cyril]

1988 - 18 centuries.
2008 - 60+ including two maximums.

Look at who the finalists were in '88 - Davis and Griffiths. Both were great safety players and although both excellent break builders as well, they were more likely to take what was there and keep the game tight. Maybe score 40/50 breaks and run away for safety. That was more how the game was back then. Jimmy played a more open game and paid the penalty gainst Griffiths in the semi's.

[Le Ball Sack]

I can work that out, give me half an hour

It would be more interesting to judge about average level of the game not based on tons made just in one tournament, but rather the whole season...

[April madness]

I can work that out, give me half an hour

OK
Or better would be the average tons per tournament per season, as there are less events now than in the past.

[Le Ball Sack]

Am gonna work out the average frame score for a world tournament

[Son of Cliff]

OK
Or better would be the average tons per tournament per season, as there are less events now than in the past.

Give it a rest you cannot judge snooker standards on the amount of 100 breaks made, :snooker: its just a small part of the game. Or are there more non players on this forum than I thought.

[April madness]

Give it a rest you cannot judge snooker standards on the amount of 100 breaks made, :snooker: its just a small part of the game. Or are there more non players on this forum than I thought.

I know, 100+ breaks is just one aspect of a game. Have I ever said that I think there are no others? No. I was just discussing the graph that was posted before, as the author made a conclusion from it that the level of snooker has declined.

Oh, and being a non player from what can be called a non-snooker country, yes, I do know I don't understand a lot about the game, but that's why I read what other more knowledgeable people post on TSF with interest, and if only those who do play can post on here - well, I don't think there would be much discussion on the forum at all.

[janverhaas]

It would be far easier for Terry Griffiths of 1980 to adapt to present day conditions and become world champ than O'Sullivan or Carter to adapt to conditions in 1980.

[The Boss]

It would be far easier for Terry Griffiths of 1980 to adapt to present day conditions and become world champ than O'Sullivan or Carter to adapt to conditions in 1980.

Another terrible comment from the poster with the same name as a ref

[Son of Cliff]

I know, 100+ breaks is just one aspect of a game. Have I ever said that I think there are no others? No. I was just discussing the graph that was posted before, as the author made a conclusion from it that the level of snooker has declined.

Oh, and being a non player from what can be called a non-snooker country, yes, I do know I don't understand a lot about the game, but that's why I read what other more knowledgeable people post on TSF with interest, and if only those who do play can post on here - well, I don't think there would be much discussion on the forum at all.

Ok calm down and open the first snooker club in your country :snooker:

[Son of Cliff]

It would be far easier for Terry Griffiths of 1980 to adapt to present day conditions and become world champ than O'Sullivan or Carter to adapt to conditions in 1980.

I think if Ronnie played in the 80's he would still be champ but with less one visit snooker :snooker:

[janverhaas]

Another terrible comment from the poster with the same name as a ref

If terrible means accurate in your eyes then so be it!