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  • davis_greatest
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    Congratulations snookersfun! It is indeed possible to pot 32 balls in a frame and score only 32 points, while satisfying the requirements of the question!

    So here is the table after round 339, excluding rounds 333 and 337 which remain open.

    Pos. . . . . . . . Score . . . . . . Player
    ..1 . . . . . . . . . 44½. . . . . . . snookersfun
    ..2 . . . . . . . . . 23½. . . . . . . davis_greatest
    ..3 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . attilahun
    ..4 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . Lindea
    ..5 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Monique
    ..6 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Alex0paul
    ..7 . . . . . . . . . 18½. . . . . . . Robert602
    ..8 . . . . . . . . . 14⅓ . . . . . . . chasmmi
    ..9 . . . . . . . . . 14 . . . . . . . . Cessy143
    10 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . JPK123
    11 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . Cyril
    12 . . . . . . . . . 12½. . . . . . . The Statman
    13 . . . . . . . . . 12 . . . . . . . . Mal
    14 . . . . . . . . . 10½. . . . . . . Mitsuko
    15 . . . . . . . . . 10 . . . . . . . . dantuck_7
    16 . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . PaulTheSoave
    17 . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . Marc
    18 . . . . . . . . . . 7½. . . . . . . kellie-text
    19 . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . April Madness
    20 . . . . . . . . . . 6. . . . . . . crucible77
    21 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . abextra
    22 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . Ginger Freak
    23 . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . hegeland
    24 . . . . . . . . . . 41/2 . . . . . frameandfortunereturns
    25 . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . semih_sayginer
    26 . . . . . . . . . . 3½. . . . . . . rambon
    27 . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . jon
    28 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Odrl
    29 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Valderie
    30 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Ellena
    31 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Obligation
    32 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . berolina
    33 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . jaguarf1
    34 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . janverhaas
    35 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Bongo
    36 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Teresa
    37 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Gingerale
    38 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Shaggy365
    39 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . pat39
    40 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . JoanneT63
    41 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . In-off
    42 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . mcmanusrules
    43 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Ronnieisthebest
    44 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . aphex
    45 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . t.lavery55
    46 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . sunny3909

    (A reminder that there are no tied positions – you move directly to the top of the list for your new score.)

    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-SEVEN
    ...is still open?

    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY

    If you have just one visit to the table during a frame, what is the highest break you can make yet still lose the frame (without conceding, forfeiting, retiring, being disqualified etc)?

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  • snookersfun
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    Originally Posted by davis_greatest View Post
    Again, 32 is what I had in mind! snookersfun, please explain how to make these pots for the point!
    hurray!

    well, I would need an unbelievable number of free balls. 16 to be exact. Pot every red free ball together with a red (15x2 pots- 2 points each break) and then pot a free ball yellow together with the yellow (2 additional pots for 2 points).

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  • davis_greatest
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    Again, 32 is what I had in mind! snookersfun, please explain how to make these pots for the point!

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  • snookersfun
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    just a first idea:
    32 balls

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  • davis_greatest
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    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-NINE

    What is the greatest number of balls you can pot during a single frame of snooker, such that (i) at no point does the total number of points you have scored during your scoring visits exceed the number of balls you have potted; and (ii) whenever your opponent comes to the table, there are fewer balls remaining than there were at the start of his previous visit?

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  • Odrl
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    Originally Posted by davis_greatest View Post
    Congratulations Odrl! That is the exact answer I had in mind! A break of 85 in 12 shots - averaging more than 7 points a stroke!

    A very honourable mention to Monique, too, who had nearly all the shots there with a very good answer, but didn't quite go far enough.
    I must admit that I wasn't thinking along those lines until I read Monique's solution. So all credit to her.

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  • davis_greatest
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    Congratulations Odrl! That is the exact answer I had in mind! A break of 85 in 12 shots - averaging more than 7 points a stroke!

    A very honourable mention to Monique, too, who had nearly all the shots there with a very good answer, but didn't quite go far enough.

    So here is the table after round 338, excluding rounds 333 and 337 which remain open.

    Pos. . . . . . . . Score . . . . . . Player
    ..1 . . . . . . . . . 43½. . . . . . . snookersfun
    ..2 . . . . . . . . . 23½. . . . . . . davis_greatest
    ..3 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . attilahun
    ..4 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . Lindea
    ..5 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Monique
    ..6 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Alex0paul
    ..7 . . . . . . . . . 18½. . . . . . . Robert602
    ..8 . . . . . . . . . 14⅓ . . . . . . . chasmmi
    ..9 . . . . . . . . . 14 . . . . . . . . Cessy143
    10 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . JPK123
    11 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . Cyril
    12 . . . . . . . . . 12½. . . . . . . The Statman
    13 . . . . . . . . . 12 . . . . . . . . Mal
    14 . . . . . . . . . 10½. . . . . . . Mitsuko
    15 . . . . . . . . . 10 . . . . . . . . dantuck_7
    16 . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . PaulTheSoave
    17 . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . Marc
    18 . . . . . . . . . . 7½. . . . . . . kellie-text
    19 . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . April Madness
    20 . . . . . . . . . . 6. . . . . . . crucible77
    21 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . abextra
    22 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . Ginger Freak
    23 . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . hegeland
    24 . . . . . . . . . . 41/2 . . . . . frameandfortunereturns
    25 . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . semih_sayginer
    26 . . . . . . . . . . 3½. . . . . . . rambon
    27 . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . jon
    28 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Odrl
    29 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Valderie
    30 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Ellena
    31 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Obligation
    32 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . berolina
    33 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . jaguarf1
    34 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . janverhaas
    35 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Bongo
    36 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Teresa
    37 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Gingerale
    38 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Shaggy365
    39 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . pat39
    40 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . JoanneT63
    41 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . In-off
    42 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . mcmanusrules
    43 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Ronnieisthebest
    44 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . aphex
    45 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . t.lavery55
    46 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . sunny3909

    (A reminder that there are no tied positions – you move directly to the top of the list for your new score.)

    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-SEVEN
    ...is still open by Bongo.

    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-NINE
    ... anyone?

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  • The Statman
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    Ordl

    Just come online and found you have given the exact answer I was about to post!

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  • Odrl
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    Ok, I got 85.

    Previously to the first relevant stroke, you had a free ball, potting it, then being called for a miss on the colour. You also conceded enough points, that the following clearance will result in a respotted black. You are then put back in, with a colour the ball on, and every red still on the table.

    Shot 1: You pot the black, scoring 7 points.
    Shot 2: You pot all reds, scoring 15 points.
    Shot 3: You pot the black as the colour, scroing 7 points.
    Shot 4-9: You pot the colours, scroing 27 points.
    Shot 10: The scores are tied, and without your opponent getting a shot, you pot the respotted black, scoring 7 again.
    Shot 11: You break off in the next frame, potting the reds, and scoring 15 points.
    Shot 12: You pot the black, as the colour, scoring 7 points.

    7+15+7+27(2,3,4,5,6,7)+7+15+7=85

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  • Odrl
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    Originally Posted by Monique View Post
    You said 12 consecutive strokes. Must it be just one break? Or can it be spanned over two frames?
    if so it could be ...

    16 reds (free ball and all reds in one shot), black, colours, respotted black --- 15 reds (one shot) , black, yellow ... for 16+7+27+7+15+7+2= 91
    That would be quite something. You would need to have the break off in the 2nd frame, and pot every red off it. Still, it is theoretically possible.

    Oh, it's 81 btw, not 91.
    Last edited by Odrl; 21 January 2009, 09:55 AM.

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  • Monique
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    You said 12 consecutive strokes. Must it be just one break? Or can it be spanned over two frames?
    if so it could be ...

    16 reds (free ball and all reds in one shot), black, colours, respotted black --- 15 reds (one shot) , black, yellow ... for 16+7+27+7+15+7+2= 81
    Last edited by Monique; 21 January 2009, 10:10 AM. Reason: being a zero at adding integers! thanks Odrl

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  • davis_greatest
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    70 is very good, but we can do better.

    Actually, I should have added to the question (and would have, had it not been for the late hour), the first shot must also be your first shot of a break - if anything, that makes it slightly harder! But even with that addition, could still exceed 70.
    Last edited by davis_greatest; 21 January 2009, 09:13 AM.

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  • Monique
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    I'd say 70 ... very unlikely situation I know but what about this?
    You come at the table with a free ball and all reds still there but with a deficit of 63 points (all awarded on fouls). You pot the free ball (that's shot 0)

    You then pot black (shot 1), 8 reds (in one shot) black, 7 reds (one shot), black, all colours, you tie, win the "draw" for the respotted black and pot it (doubling it in green pocket f.i.)
    that's 15 (reds) + 21 (3 blacks) + 27 (colours) + 7 (respotted black)
    Last edited by Monique; 21 January 2009, 09:11 AM.

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  • davis_greatest
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    bongo, a reminder that you have had an answer to round 337 Maybe time to confirm if it is correct so we can move on ... pending which:

    Round 338

    How many points can you (theoretically) score unanswered in a snooker match with 12 consecutive strokes (with your opponent not getting a shot in between, nor forfeiting points in any other way, nor the referee making any errors)?

    Edit (addition): the first shot must also be your first shot of a break (NB careful wording )
    Last edited by davis_greatest; 21 January 2009, 09:12 AM. Reason: addition

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  • The Statman
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    Congratulations Monique. Walden is the lowest ranked player to beat O'Sullivan in a ranking final.

    So here is the table after round 336, excluding round 333 which remains unanswered.

    Pos. . . . . . . . Score . . . . . . Player
    ..1 . . . . . . . . . 43½. . . . . . . snookersfun
    ..2 . . . . . . . . . 23½. . . . . . . davis_greatest
    ..3 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . attilahun
    ..4 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . Lindea
    ..5 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Monique
    ..6 . . . . . . . . . 19 . . . . . . . . Alex0paul
    ..7 . . . . . . . . . 18½. . . . . . . Robert602
    ..8 . . . . . . . . . 14⅓ . . . . . . . chasmmi
    ..9 . . . . . . . . . 14 . . . . . . . . Cessy143
    10 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . JPK123
    11 . . . . . . . . . 13 . . . . . . . . Cyril
    12 . . . . . . . . . 12½. . . . . . . The Statman
    13 . . . . . . . . . 12 . . . . . . . . Mal
    14 . . . . . . . . . 10½. . . . . . . Mitsuko
    15 . . . . . . . . . 10 . . . . . . . . dantuck_7
    16 . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . PaulTheSoave
    17 . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . Marc
    18 . . . . . . . . . . 7½. . . . . . . kellie-text
    19 . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . . April Madness
    20 . . . . . . . . . . 6. . . . . . . crucible77
    21 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . abextra
    22 . . . . . . . . . . 5½. . . . . . . Ginger Freak
    23 . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . . hegeland
    24 . . . . . . . . . . 41/2 . . . . . frameandfortunereturns
    25 . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . semih_sayginer
    26 . . . . . . . . . . 3½. . . . . . . rambon
    27 . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . jon
    28 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Valderie
    29 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Ellena
    30 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . Obligation
    31 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . berolina
    32 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . jaguarf1
    33 . . . . . . . . . . 1½. . . . . . . janverhaas
    34 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Bongo
    35 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Teresa
    36 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Gingerale
    37 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Shaggy365
    38 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Odrl
    39 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . pat39
    40 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . JoanneT63
    41 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . In-off
    42 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . mcmanusrules
    43 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . Ronnieisthebest
    44 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . aphex
    45 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . t.lavery55
    46 . . . . . . . . . . . ½. . . . . . . sunny3909

    (A reminder that there are no tied positions – you move directly to the top of the list for your new score.)

    ROUND THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY-SEVEN

    ...is already open by Bongo.

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