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  • Ssb - the sad decline of the uk championship

    Today’s news that the UK Championship will be best of 11 frames until the semi-finals is the third change inflicted on the tournament that has diminished its status.

    The first came back in 1993 when the final was reduced from best of 31 frames played over two days to best of 19.

    This made it feel like any other final instead of closely resembling the showpiece conclusion to the World Championship.

    Stephen Hendry and Steve Davis never played in a Crucible final but their 1990 UK final was virtually as good as. It was not only hugely significant in terms of the balance of power in the sport but also a bone fide classic, which Hendry edged 16-15.

    Going down to 19 frames reduced the UK’s prestige in the eyes of many, even though we have had many great champions and many great finals since.

    The second came in 1998 when the UK Championship was moved from its long established home at Preston Guild Hall, a first rate venue that was synonymous with the tournament.

    It has since been moved around various locations – Bournemouth, York, Telford and now back to York.

    Now, we have the number of frames reduced from best of 17 to best of 11 up until the semi-final stage.

    All of these decisions have been taken for perfectly understandable commercial reasons and mainly for television.

    TV didn’t want to risk runaway finals, although you can of course still have them in a best of 19. The move from Preston was to placate a sponsor based elsewhere.

    Best of 11s means every match from the last 32 onwards will now be televised. During the last couple of years only half of the last 16 has been played before the TV cameras, effectively creating two separate tournaments.

    Years ago, when the top 16 came in at the last 64 stage, they had to win two matches to get on TV as the BBC began their coverage at the last 16.

    I always thought this was odd because quite obviously some of the star names would fall by the wayside, but the public’s thirst for snooker in the 1980s was such that it didn’t seem to matter.

    This situation was addressed just over a decade ago when it was decided to hold over four last 32 matches (the top 16 now playing a round fewer) for the TV stage.

    This precipitated a row about which four players they would be, because the top four in the world are not necessarily the four most popular.

    Eventually, to end these arguments, the top four were held over, which meant star names still playing in the pre-TV section.

    All of which led us to the rather unsatisfactory scenario of the last few years.

    Snooker is snooker. I’d rather watch a 6-5 than a 9-1 but the UK Championship’s best of 17s made the tournament a cut above the norm.

    Over longer matches, the narrative has time to shift. Some of the great nights I’ve had at the snooker have been watching comebacks at the UK Championship. I remember two in the same night one year at York: Mark Williams against Stephen Hendry and Ronnie O’Sullivan against Peter Ebdon.

    A longer match is a greater test, which is why there have been very few shock winners of the UK title.

    And let’s not kid ourselves, here. The real reason for the change is cost cutting, for both the BBC and World Snooker.

    The BBC will have four sessions per day to staff rather than six in the early rounds and World Snooker will have two tables to staff rather than four.

    Each organisation finds itself, as so many do, in difficult economic times so this decision is perfectly understandable for them both.

    Many snooker fans would prefer to live in a fantasy land where nothing ever changes but those who run and broadcast snooker have to live in the real world, where money talks. The BBC has less to spend on sport generally, hence they’ve gone from four snooker tournaments to three. World Snooker has more events to stage and saving a few quid in York will help them do that.

    I'm certainly not stuck in the past and recognise that, sometimes, difficult decisions have to be taken.

    Nevertheless, the UK Championship has taken another knock. It’s still a big title to win but the various facets that have made it so special have been gradually eroded and it’s hard, for me anyway, not to conclude that its stature has declined as a result.


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  • #2
    ****ing stupid, don't mess with the few real tournaments that are left.

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    • #3
      This is a bad move, I hoped they'd left WC, UK and Masters alone but no...

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      • #4
        So the promise to leave the majors alone has now been broken, hardly unexpected. Although I was hoping that reducing the qualifiers to best-of-11s was as bad as it would get.

        There is not much one can say... It's another disastrous decision, going against what the majority of snooker fans want. And as usual, there might be some objections for a couple of days, until everyone just accepts it and moves on. Sad day...

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        • #5
          Originally Posted by Odrl View Post
          So the promise to leave the majors alone has now been broken, hardly unexpected. Although I was hoping that reducing the qualifiers to best-of-11s was as bad as it would get.

          There is not much one can say... It's another disastrous decision, going against what the majority of snooker fans want. And as usual, there might be some objections for a couple of days, until everyone just accepts it and moves on. Sad day...
          i wont be accepting **** ******* ****ing all

          no toss pot ****s about with this sport barry can go and **** himself the twat.

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          • #6
            I remember when people were dissing Peter Ebdon for speaking his mind. The man was right from the beggining.

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            • #7
              will they reduce tickets price as well? no? didnt think so..

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              • #8
                This is very sad, but what can you do? Even if every one of the 200 people who've viewed this thread so far, contacted World Snooker to voice their objections, would it count for anything? Of course not. And considering that 97% of those people don't seem too bothered about it, I guess it was inevitable.

                Look out Sheffield, the hatchet man's coming to town.

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                The fast and the furious,
                The slow and labourious,
                All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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                • #9
                  Originally Posted by PatBlock View Post
                  This is very sad, but what can you do? Even if every one of the 200 people who've viewed this thread so far, contacted World Snooker to voice their objections, would it count for anything? Of course not. And considering that 97% of those people don't seem too bothered about it, I guess it was inevitable.

                  Look out Sheffield, the hatchet man's coming to town.

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                  snooker fans are accepting morons that just sit back and let any twat walk all over them.

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                  • #10
                    theres strengths in numbers but **** me everyone miles behind when you need back up to shoot down ****s

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                    • #11
                      RIP The UK Championship.

                      Just another ranking event now.

                      It won't be long before all tournaments are best of 5 with a shot clock, drunken yobs will be allowed to shout out during matches, with blond bimbo referees in bikinis.

                      Barry Hearn is a chav in a suit and he's pushing our great game into the gutter.

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                      • #12
                        Absolutely agree 100% with everything you say here.
                        Originally Posted by FOXMULDER View Post
                        RIP The UK Championship.

                        Just another ranking event now.

                        It won't be long before all tournaments are best of 5 with a shot clock, drunken yobs will be allowed to shout out during matches, with blond bimbo referees in bikinis.

                        Barry Hearn is a chav in a suit and he's pushing our great game into the gutter.

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                        • #13
                          Enjoying reading the "balanced" comments and arguments going on in this thread...!

                          Anybody ever thought that the BBC may have had some influence in the decision? Shorter matches, get all of the top players on TV or we'll not be showing the UK on the Beeb... something like that.

                          This is one of the first "bad news" stories we've had since Hearn took over. Suddenly he's the worst thing ever to happen to snooker and Ebdon was right after all. What a joke you all are if that's what you honestly believe.

                          Anybody also realise that the new season starts today - yes that's today, 18th June! And pretty much back-to-back snooker all the way through until the end of July with the Wuxi (independant of World Snooker, OK), World Cup and Australian ranking event.

                          Snooker hasn't looked this good for years. For Christ's sake gain some perspective before belittling Hearn for one decision.

                          MW

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                          • #14
                            Barry Hearn has done a lot of Good things since he came in but this is undoing some of the positive things hes done sad for snooker.

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                            • #15
                              Originally Posted by MattWilson View Post
                              Enjoying reading the "balanced" comments and arguments going on in this thread...! Anybody ever thought that the BBC may have had some influence in the decision? Shorter matches, get all of the top players on TV or we'll not be showing the UK on the Beeb... something like that. This is one of the first "bad news" stories we've had since Hearn took over. Suddenly he's the worst thing ever to happen to snooker and Ebdon was right after all. What a joke you all are if that's what you honestly believe. Anybody also realise that the new season starts today - yes that's today, 18th June! And pretty much back-to-back snooker all the way through until the end of July with the Wuxi (independant of World Snooker, OK), World Cup and Australian ranking event. Snooker hasn't looked this good for years. For Christ's sake gain some perspective before belittling Hearn for one decision. MW
                              if Barry Hearn takes the applause when things goes right he must take the **** when it dont.... this is a monumental cock up on all levels if he needed to reduce the early rounds to get them on TV increase the final and semi finals.

                              Best of 31 Final
                              Sunday = 7 and 8
                              Saturday= 7 and 9

                              Best of 25 Semi Finals 3 session on 1 table rotating
                              Friday
                              10am SF 1 8 Frames
                              2.30pm SF 2 8 Frames
                              7pm SF 1 8 Frames

                              Thursday
                              10am SF 2 8 Frames
                              2.30pm SF 1 9 Frames
                              7pm SF 2 9 Frames

                              Wednesday = Best of 11 Quarter Finals on 2 tables 2 sessions

                              Best of 11 Last 16 and Last 32
                              Tuesday 6 Last 16=3 sessions on 2 Tables
                              Monday 4 Last 32 and 2 Last 16 3 sessions on 2 tables
                              Sunday 6 last 32=3 sessions on 2 Tables
                              Saturday 6 last 32= 3 sessions on 2 tables

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