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    In the 1970s there was Ray Reardon, in the 1980s there was Steve Davis and in the 1990s there was Stephen Hendry.


    In seasons since, John Higgins, Ronnie O’Sullivan and Mark Williams have all had spells of dominance but will snooker ever again have a figure who wins the lion’s share of major titles over a prolonged period of time?


    Well, forever is a long time. But how about the next few years?


    Mark Selby is the world no.1 but he isn’t the game's dominant player in the tradition of Reardon, Davis and Hendry.


    O’Sullivan is world champion but, although he dominates the headlines, he didn’t dominate last season. Nobody did. Several players had their moments. Most of the major titles were shared around.


    Why? Because there is a core group of around ten players who play snooker to a very high level and who are all capable of beating each other on the big occasions, and indeed they do so.


    There is very little between them, even though O’Sullivan is still regarded by many (including players) as better than the rest at his best.


    Stephen Hendry once won five consecutive ranking titles. This was extraordinary then but it would be even more so today because Hendry did not have as many players at the top of the game playing to the sort of standard he was capable of producing.


    Standards rise all the time in sport and snooker is no different. Through the ranks there are now more players able to play at a high standard. Often players play brilliantly and lose early in tournaments.


    But this is by no means the whole story. It isn’t just about ability but also mindset.


    The reason Davis and Hendry dominated, apart from how they played, was that they wanted to. They wanted to so much that they made the sacrifices necessary to dominate.


    Few players since have been as driven as that. Most come from humble, working class beginnings. When they start earning money in much greater amounts than they would have thought possible when young they become comfortable. They start to spend their money and enjoy themselves.


    This is entirely understandable. It is human. Many would feel it a sad state of affairs if they didn’t.


    But this approach doesn’t make champions who will threaten places in my fictional Mount Rushmore of snooker.


    The Davis’s and Hendry’s were the players who stopped in on Saturday night because they wanted to be up early on a Sunday morning to practise. They were the players who won a tournament and put it out of their minds. They were relentless in their belief that nothing was ever good enough, that success could always be bettered.


    Higgins and O’Sullivan have freely admitted they are not made this way, and Williams doesn’t seem to be either.


    If a player can earn £200,000 a year playing snooker, if they are happy to win a title or two a year, then they may well wonder why they should change.


    Even with the Davis/Hendry approach there is no guarantee a player could dominate again, such is the tough opposition out there.


    If it did happen and a player emerged who topped the rankings and won most of the major prizes, would it be a good thing for snooker?


    In some senses, yes. It would provide a focal point, as Phil Taylor has in darts, as the man to be shot at.


    The downside, though, is that many people do get bored watching the same player win everything, as if it takes away the sense of the unexpected.


    The question is, will it happen again?


    Well, if it does then it is going to take one very, very special player.



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  • #2
    It will most definitely happen again at some point.

    Why?

    2 words - Tiger Woods.

    Golf is a huge sport, much bigger than Snooker but Tiger came along and blew everyone away, because he wanted it so much more than all the others. Snooker is ripe for a Tiger Woods to come along and rip up the record books. The fun part is watching and waiting for it to happen.

    It might not happen in the next few years but sooner or later someone will come along, someone always does.

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    • #3
      Realistically, Ronnie could've done it, even with players such as Mark Williams and John Higgins around. Oh, those players are good and would've won stuff. But how much would Ronnie have won if his temprement wasn't so suspect?

      Like you say though, any play that dominates now will, scarily enough, have to be better than Hendry was. Because Hendry in his prime didn't have as many rivals that were close to being as good as he was.

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      • #4
        I thought DIng was going to be that guy for a while but it never happened.

        The factor that makes me wonder if such a feat is possible again is whether there is any capacity for a player to revolutionise how the game is played (in matchplay).

        Davis brought a whole new level of tactic and breakbuilding and such that mentally beat an opponent before they even played a shot.

        Hendry then vamped this up to a whole new level with one visit snooker that nobody had ever seen consistently and as such meant that a mistake from a player meant a 90% likelihood of losing the frame as opposed to just being 40 or so behind and tucked up on the baulk cushion.

        I think these decades of dominance ceased because of a: the general quality of players but also b: because when Ronnie appeared to take over from Jimmy as the flair player, Higgins didn't step up to the level of being his matchplay nemesis.

        In the 80's, Alex Higgins on his day was a better player than Steve at his best, but Steve knew how to beat Alex and did it consistently and thus dominated.

        In the 90's Jimmy White was a better player at his best than Hendry, but Hendry new how to beat Jimmy and did it consistently and thus dominated.

        Higgins (or Williams) didn't step up when needing to kick Ronnie where it hurts enough to consistently beat him and then dominate. Davis, Ebdon and Hendry have all shown that Ronnie was easy to beat in the mental battle early in his career. If Higgins or Williams had been able to find a wait to consistently beat Ronnie all the time then I believe that he could have ended up another Higgins or Jimmy as a great talent with limited success.


        In order to have another player dominate again, I believe also requires that popular flair player for his to repeatedly bury. Look at Jimmy White, Outside of playing Hendry he was nearly untouchable as an opponent yet Hendry could break him over and over again.

        Imagine if somebody in the 2000's had done that to Ronnie. The other players would have been mentally beaten they tried to cope with the notion of trying to beat a player who thrashes a player that consistently thrashes them.


        THe only 2 current top players that could create this dynamic for me are RObertson and Trump.

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        • #5
          Jimmy White was NEVER a better player, at his best or otherwise than Stephen Hendry!!

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          • #6
            Also, what must be noted, is that the amount of tournaments there are now. Okay, a lot of them are PTCs, but still. Are there any players with the kind of drive to dominate? Especially when you consider that quite a few players dropped out of Australia, and the Asian PTC reads like a Whos Nobody list of snooker players.

            Maybe the drive to win all tournaments isn't what it was when Hendry had it?

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            • #7
              I'm sure everyone who watched Jack Nicklaus win 18 majors thought they would never see his like again, but we have. It took quite a while but another one came along.

              I haven't yet seen anyone currently playing who threatens to win 7 or 8 WC's in a 10 year span but you never know - it could be one of the new young pros just joining the circuit for the first time, there could be a 9 or 10 year old out there somewhere or perhaps that special someone is still a glint in his father's eye. But someone will turn up again at some point. And those of us lucky enough to watch Hendry do it can debate about which one was better.

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              • #8
                Don't forget that changes in playing conditions have a part to play. Reardon ruled the seventies conditions, Davis the eighties conditions and Hendry the nineties conditions.
                Conditions were different in all three decades as regarding balls, cloths and pocket size.
                At the turn of the twenty first century the table conditions had gotten easier and uniform and have stayed the same and that makes it possible for more players to play to a high standard. Easier conditions make a game easier to play thus making it easier to lose, stopping any one person dominating, especially when they don't have to undergo any changes that might suit one player better than the others.

                Who would benefit say if the cloths went back to a heavy nap ?

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                • #9
                  i would argue Ronnie was the best player last season 2 ranking events, 2 ptcs and premier league thats 5 tournaments Ronnie won
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