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  • #31
    The Covid enquiry in the US is getting interesting as they've gone beyond the Downing St. parties that the UK enquiry was concentrating on

    Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
    but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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    • #32
      When you hear the party political broadcasts just stop and think who you're listening to and why they demonise the likes of Russel Brand, George Galloway, Jeremy Corbyn, Vladimir Putin, Hugo Chavez, Xi Jingping etc etc. and prop up the likes of Pinochet, Marcos, Netanyahu etc etc.They infiltrated the universities a long time ago, set new curriculums for the schools where the capitalist system cannot be questioned and printed new history textbooks.

      Time to wake up, the internet is your friend but be careful with Google, they always put the wikipedia page at the top of every search and wikipedia is owned and run by the CIA and Google are their friends. The info is there but you need to search a little deeper for an alternative narrative for a balanced view and a more informed opinion.

      Just remember the pandemic lies, the ukraine lies, the post office horizon lies, the oct 7th lies, the 9/11 lies, the WMD iraq lies, the JFK lies, the RJK lies, the MLK lies, the Malcom X lies, where all these lies originate and just who is telling them and why polticians can say nothing when asked a question and get away with it.

      Divide and rule came from the roman empire, we must look within ourselves and see where our prejudices came from, who put them there, who keeps them there, cui bono (who benefits) from the labour and conservative 'friends of israel' in the UK and AIPAC in the US and why such organisations are allowed to influence (bribe) our politicians to the point where a genocide is supported by laws against free speech advocating a ceasefire to stop the killing and the use of police to enforce those laws (online safety bill) and break up the peaceful protests of peaceful people.

      Rishi Sunaks personal wealth grew by £120m last year to £650m, that's £10m a month and he's telling us that he's not afraid to make the 'difficult decisions', those difficult decisions like investing in moderna while chancellor and rolling out a vaccine that wasn't tested, Kier Starmer was a human rights lawyer, married to a zionist jew so defends the gaza genocide, Ed Davey was the minister in charge in the coalition when the horizon scandal first surfaced and did nothing despite being informed officially about it by conservative mp Andrew Bridgen who has now been expelled from the conservative party because he saw through the pandemic lies as he is a university graduate in genetics and biology so could understand the medical papers put before him.

      Can we vote ourselves out of this mess or is it time for torches and pitchforks and setting up a public guillotine.

      Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
      but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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      • #33
        For those that think all of this is nonsense and governments are at best trying to help or at worst incompetent but not malignant, just Google MK Ultra and see what they actually do.
        wiki isn't a bad starting point and remember this was forced on unwitting subjects.
        another good one to look up is the gulf of tonkin incident that dragged the US into the Vietnam war, this turned out to be totally fabricated but they needed a reason to go to war, very similar to the WMD lies about Iraq.
        Last edited by itsnoteasy; 24 May 2024, 12:43 PM.
        This is how you play darts ,MVG two nines in the same match!
        https://youtu.be/yqTGtwOpHu8

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        • #34
          This happened 50 years ago, still relevant today. One must ask why did the US not retaliate but instead became israels main arms supplier in place of france.

          Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
          but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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          • #35
            It's pointless getting in a froth about all of this, there's absolutely nothing we can do to change any of it, it's just natural selection doing it's thing. It doesn't matter what political or financial systems are in place, the most ruthless will always rise to the top because they have no compunction when it comes to doing what others would not, to get what they want.

            There may be hope, long term, in the form of social evolution, but we need to get over this very large bump first, and in a world where empathy has been relabelled as woke and demonised (by, well, guess who.....?) I'm losing faith and just hope I can enjoy the rest of my life and snuff it before it all goes tits up.

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            The fast and the furious,
            The slow and labourious,
            All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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            • #36
              Originally Posted by PatBlock View Post
              It's pointless getting in a froth about all of this, there's absolutely nothing we can do to change any of it, it's just natural selection doing it's thing. It doesn't matter what political or financial systems are in place, the most ruthless will always rise to the top because they have no compunction when it comes to doing what others would not, to get what they want.
              That's where you're very, very wrong. They can't do anything without the permission of the majority which is why these propaganda systems are in place. Not all politicians have been corrupted, click on the link below and read it in full, if there's anything you disagree with and consider yourself a decent human being then you need to understand that you too have been propagandised to think you're not working class and that you can vote above your station. Truth is that if you work for a living then you are working class and have nothing to fear from socialism, communism, anarchism or co-operatism, the capitalists know this which is why these alternative systems are demonised.

              I would also point you in the direction of a great book written a hundred years ago, The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressel, a treatise on the need for a socialists revolution.

              https://workerspartybritain.org/mani...serves-better/

              Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
              but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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              • #37
                I think you misunderstand me Steve, I am a socialist, and proud to be 'working class' I just see the futility of it all. I read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists years ago and completely get it, but I've also read Dawkins. You can't wish away billions of years of natural selection with it's inevitable consequences, which are so clearly evident in us, mankind, it's pinnacle.

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                The fast and the furious,
                The slow and labourious,
                All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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                • #38
                  There is a socialist party you can vote for that haven't been corrupted, read their manifesto, the chapter on english football sums up this country for me.
                  Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                  but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                  • #39
                    Originally Posted by vmax View Post
                    There is a socialist party you can vote for that haven't been corrupted....
                    YET. But give it time, it's only natural. If they were to get anywhere near a position of power, then the predators would move in and eventually take over, it's inevitable.

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                    The fast and the furious,
                    The slow and labourious,
                    All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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                    • #40
                      Originally Posted by Mark187187 View Post
                      You've really fallen down the rabbit hole when Russell Brand is your oracle
                      Do you have anything to back this up, I mean absolutely anything
                      It's hard to pot balls with a Chimpanzee tea party going on in your head

                      Wibble

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                      • #41
                        Originally Posted by PatBlock View Post
                        It's pointless getting in a froth about all of this, there's absolutely nothing we can do to change any of it, it's just natural selection doing it's thing. It doesn't matter what political or financial systems are in place, the most ruthless will always rise to the top because they have no compunction when it comes to doing what others would not, to get what they want.

                        There may be hope, long term, in the form of social evolution, but we need to get over this very large bump first, and in a world where empathy has been relabelled as woke and demonised (by, well, guess who.....?) I'm losing faith and just hope I can enjoy the rest of my life and snuff it before it all goes tits up.

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                        I don't usually opine on these matters, but agree with you here PB, rightly or wrongly (and I would understand both opinions on my stance) I have chosen to find my own inner peace with all these matters and just live my life as best I can for whatever time I may have.

                        I used to feel the weight of the worlds issues on my shoulders years ago and it's not good for your mental health, I avoid the main news feeds wherever possible because all they do is bring me angst and depression. I admire anyone who can dedicate themselves to change and actually have some success in making positive change happen. But for me personally I prefer to take note of mother nature and wonder at how marvelous this planet would be without us....
                        ⚪ 🔴🟡🟢🟤🔵💗⚫🕳️😎

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                        • #42
                          Originally Posted by Cue crafty View Post

                          I don't usually opine on these matters, but agree with you here PB, rightly or wrongly (and I would understand both opinions on my stance) I have chosen to find my own inner peace with all these matters and just live my life as best I can for whatever time I may have.

                          I used to feel the weight of the worlds issues on my shoulders years ago and it's not good for your mental health, I avoid the main news feeds wherever possible because all they do is bring me angst and depression. I admire anyone who can dedicate themselves to change and actually have some success in making positive change happen. But for me personally I prefer to take note of mother nature and wonder at how marvelous this planet would be without us....
                          100% with you mate. ✌

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                          The fast and the furious,
                          The slow and labourious,
                          All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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                          • #43
                            Originally Posted by GeordieDS View Post

                            Do you have anything to back this up, I mean absolutely anything
                            This is the guy who suddenly got religion after being accused of sexual misdemeanours, got baptised in the Thames and declared ‘I’m so grateful to be surrendered in Christ’

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                            The fast and the furious,
                            The slow and labourious,
                            All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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                            • #44
                              Originally Posted by PatBlock View Post
                              I think you misunderstand me Steve, I am a socialist, and proud to be 'working class' I just see the futility of it all. I read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists years ago and completely get it, but I've also read Dawkins. You can't wish away billions of years of natural selection with it's inevitable consequences, which are so clearly evident in us, mankind, it's pinnacle.

                              -
                              Dawkins, whether deliberately or innocently was used to push the establishment fascist agenda against socialism and their fearmongering of islam through science. Yes his work is honest and scientifically informed but he is not an anthropologist and one cannot use The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion as examples of what human society would be without religion. Dawkins also says that the mild paedophilia he experienced as a child hasn't affected his life and therefore shouldn't be criminalised, good old british stoicism or a lack of empathy ?

                              The german national socialists used Darwinism as a base for their eugenics programme, openly euthanising the mentally and physically disabled after they achieved power in 1932 and kidnapping blonde blue eyed aryan children from their conquered countries and placing them in special schools to prepare them for their role in the future of the master race.

                              Now we have the likes of Esther Rantzen championing the cause of voluntary medically assisted death for the terminally ill, they already have this is canada known as Medical Assistance In Dying (MAiD) and it's gone past the terminally ill, now anyone with a serious and iremedial medical condition can sign a form for a medical assisted death, canada has postoned a mental health addition to the legislation until 2027.

                              This softer insidious push of fascism has been happening since the 1980's and the rise of the neo cons in the US/UK alliance, Thatcher, Reagan, Bush snr and jnr and Blair and all those who came after have followed the programme and have propagandised millions into accepting selfishness and greed as the driving force of human behaviour while demeaning altruism to weakness.

                              I'm reminded of the end quote from the film Cross Of Iron

                              'Don't rejoice in his defeat you men, for though the world stood up and stopped the b*stard, the bitch who bore him is in heat again'

                              Bertolt Brecht
                              Speak up, you've got to speak up against the madness, you've got speak your mind if you dare
                              but don't try to get yourself elected, for if you do you'll have to cut your hair

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                              • #45
                                Originally Posted by vmax View Post

                                Dawkins, whether deliberately or innocently was used to push the establishment fascist agenda against socialism and their fearmongering of islam through science. Yes his work is honest and scientifically informed but he is not an anthropologist and one cannot use The Selfish Gene and The God Delusion as examples of what human society would be without religion. Dawkins also says that the mild paedophilia he experienced as a child hasn't affected his life and therefore shouldn't be criminalised, good old british stoicism or a lack of empathy ?

                                The german national socialists used Darwinism as a base for their eugenics programme, openly euthanising the mentally and physically disabled after they achieved power in 1932 and kidnapping blonde blue eyed aryan children from their conquered countries and placing them in special schools to prepare them for their role in the future of the master race.

                                Now we have the likes of Esther Rantzen championing the cause of voluntary medically assisted death for the terminally ill, they already have this is canada known as Medical Assistance In Dying (MAiD) and it's gone past the terminally ill, now anyone with a serious and iremedial medical condition can sign a form for a medical assisted death, canada has postoned a mental health addition to the legislation until 2027.

                                This softer insidious push of fascism has been happening since the 1980's and the rise of the neo cons in the US/UK alliance, Thatcher, Reagan, Bush snr and jnr and Blair and all those who came after have followed the programme and have propagandised millions into accepting selfishness and greed as the driving force of human behaviour while demeaning altruism to weakness.

                                I'm reminded of the end quote from the film Cross Of Iron

                                'Don't rejoice in his defeat you men, for though the world stood up and stopped the b*stard, the bitch who bore him is in heat again'

                                Bertolt Brecht
                                All of that aside, my point still stands. Maybe I'm not explaining myself clearly enough.

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                                The fast and the furious,
                                The slow and labourious,
                                All of us, glorious parts of the whole!

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